[POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

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  • Rapideye
    Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 29

    #1

    [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

    Hi again,

    I was removing HSF from my board, the stupid reverse thread screw that feeds down through the board to a normal thread not became loose, preventing me from removing the HSF.
    My only option was to lever in a mini visegrip to try and hold the screw to allow me to get the nut of and remove the HSF.

    Anyways, the vicegrips slipped and i damaged a capacitor, didnt look too bad but when i fired it up the two small compoents circled blew.
    They also need to be replaced, but I'm waiting on some info so i can identify them.

    I could use a little help with IDing this capacitor so I can replace it.

    I'm not sure where I can get the replacement either.

    Thanks and fingers crossed.

    PIC 1: The damaged Cap.



    PIC 2: The same type of cap with ledgible markings.



    PIC 3: The damaged (burnt) area beside cap mounting.



    PIC 4: the area in question.



    If anyone can help (Im asking around) with identifying the components in the red area I would be very gratefull indeed.
    A close up picture showing the markings on the 2 small components. Thanks

    Asus Maximus 2 Formula: S775, DDR2
    Last edited by Rapideye; 09-22-2009, 10:03 AM.
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  • Rapideye
    Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 29

    #2
    Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

    The markings are:

    F
    813e
    101
    16

    Size is 10x6.5mm, 3mm Lead space.
    Red markings.

    I think it could be a Fujitsu (apparently now nichicon?)

    Thanks

    PS, strangely i cant attach those images to the post...any chance of editing the original post to keep it clean.
    Last edited by Rapideye; 09-22-2009, 07:27 PM.
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    • Toasty
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jul 2007
      • 4171

      #3
      Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

      100uF - 16v - Solid polymer

      Nichicon LF series: PLF1C101MDL4
      http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...8vwxMySA%3d%3d

      The other parts are not visible on other pictures I found. You need to find someone with the same board and ask them to get a clear, well lit, macro shot of them for any chance of ID'ing them. Whatever markings are on them must be very legible.

      You are probably better off RMA'ing the board to ASUS and paying whatever fee they ask for this type of return.

      If that cap shorted and took out those components, you may have burned out the internal traces on the motherboard. You'll never be able to repair or use the board if you did. These are multilayer boards of 4 or more paper thin layers with circuit traces on both sides.

      Several are up on eBay.

      Toast
      veritas odium parit

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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #4
        Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

        Nope.
        The F with the bars above and below it is the logo for Fujitsu.

        Fujitsu did sell their cap interests to Nichicon but their logo didn't go with it.

        It is 100uF - 16v - Functional polymer [FPCAP]
        FPCAP's aren't solid polymer because they do have an electrolyte but unlike other electrolytic caps it's more like a paste than a liquid.

        Solid polymer is the best replacement since FPCAPs aren't made anymore.

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        • Toasty
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jul 2007
          • 4171

          #5
          Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

          Hmm. I was offering a replacement, not an identification except for values.

          Thank you for the finer points, PC.

          Could not identify the series because the datasheets don't call out the markings as Nichi and others do.

          Regardless, I believe this board is toast.

          Toast
          veritas odium parit

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          • Rapideye
            Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 29

            #6
            Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

            Many thanks fellas, I'm watching a couple of baords ATM, both faulty which I could maybe get one working for little cost.

            Do you think Asus would RMA out of warranty and charge me for any work done.
            If the cost is fair, I may just do that.

            Im asking around on other forums for any help in getting a clear picture of them two little transistor thing that got fried.
            Just tested all my RAM, and its survived OK, now just have to test my CPU.

            Ill work on getting the cap sorted


            EDIT:
            Looks like mouser are out of stock, anyone know where I can order from or to, the UK?????
            Cheers
            Last edited by Rapideye; 09-23-2009, 04:41 AM.
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            • Rapideye
              Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 29

              #7
              Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

              Found this:
              http://gb.mouser.com/ProductDetail/V...UrRd12CdnsQ%3d
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              • kc8adu
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8832
                • U.S.A!

                #8
                Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

                Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                Nope.
                The F with the bars above and below it is the logo for Fujitsu.

                Fujitsu did sell their cap interests to Nichicon but their logo didn't go with it.

                It is 100uF - 16v - Functional polymer [FPCAP]
                FPCAP's aren't solid polymer because they do have an electrolyte but unlike other electrolytic caps it's more like a paste than a liquid.

                Solid polymer is the best replacement since FPCAPs aren't made anymore.

                .
                the fujitsu's are solid polys.
                they just give it a different name.
                i have torn them apart alongside the ncc of the same value ind they are identical inside.dry.

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                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

                  They call the bee's [black and yellows with vents] FPCAP as well.
                  If they were truly solid they wouldn't need vents.
                  Willa ripped one apart in a thread here and reported they were pasty inside.
                  .
                  Doesn't matter much now. Fujitsu got out of the cap business April 2009.
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                  -
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                  • PCBONEZ
                    Grumpy Old Fart
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10661
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: [POLYMER] Help with ID & Replacement

                    Originally posted by Rapideye
                    Do you think Asus would RMA out of warranty and charge me for any work done.
                    If the cost is fair, I may just do that.
                    Probably not, and if they did the cost wouldn't be fair.
                    Better off replacing the board.
                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                    -
                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                    - Dr Seuss
                    -
                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                    -

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