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  • Phaihn
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2009
    • 842
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    #1

    replaceing caps on d865perl



    can somone tell me whare i can find 2 caps like this from rubycon im having a hard time finding this.
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  • sillydanny
    New Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 3

    #2
    Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

    u can find some 560uf 4v solid cap to replace

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    • Phaihn
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2009
      • 842
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      #3
      Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

      4v is ok for replacing 6.3v?

      i got some more info from my caps 105 oC ao42o HN(M)
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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #4
        Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

        >> 4v is ok for replacing 6.3v <<
        ONLY if the capacitor is on a voltage lower than 4v.
        Cap's rated voltage HAS to be at or above circuit operating voltage + ripple voltage.

        Vcore caps are at the same volts as the CPU Vcore which would be under 2v so even 2.5v caps would be okay there.

        Any other 6.3v caps are either on 3.3v or 5v and it that case you need to measure the voltage with a meter to make sure it's on 3.3v before you go down to a 4v cap.
        105 oC - temp rating
        a0420 - date code -> year 2004, week 20, I dunno what the A means.
        [from year 2001-2004 HN and HM were defective.]
        HN is series code
        (M) is uF tolerance of +/-20%

        560uF HN are 8x11.5mm, 3.5mm lead space, ripple 1300, ESR .013
        Same or better grade replacements are:
        HN with date code after 2004,
        Rubycon MCZ, Samxon GC or GA, Nichicon HZ
        Solid polymar - but watch the ESR, there are solid polymer out now that aren't rated as good as high grade electrolytics.
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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #5
          Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

          That black/white one next to it is probably an HM and those should go too if the date code is 2001-2004.

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          • willawake
            Super Modulator
            • Nov 2003
            • 8457
            • Greece

            #6
            Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

            Originally posted by PCBONEZ
            >> 4v is ok for replacing 6.3v <<
            ONLY if the capacitor is on a voltage lower than 4v.
            Cap's rated voltage HAS to be at or above circuit operating voltage + ripple voltage.

            Vcore caps are at the same volts as the CPU Vcore which would be under 2v so even 2.5v caps would be okay there.
            i would like to add that vcore is the line of caps next to the cpu
            capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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            • Phaihn
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jan 2009
              • 842
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

              I should add that this is the first time ive tried this i didnt even know what those thing were till my computer started to freeze alot and wont go past boot up now never had problem till my old PSU went.
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              • kc8adu
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8832
                • U.S.A!

                #8
                Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                show a large pic.
                iirc the one in the pic is either on vcore or vdimm.
                and i lean toward polys esp on vcore and vdimm.

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                • Phaihn
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 842
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                  Originally posted by kc8adu
                  show a large pic.
                  iirc the one in the pic is either on vcore or vdimm.
                  and i lean toward polys esp on vcore and vdimm.
                  ok
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                  • Phaihn
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 842
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                    #10
                    Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                    Originally posted by kc8adu
                    show a large pic.
                    iirc the one in the pic is either on vcore or vdimm.
                    and i lean toward polys esp on vcore and vdimm.
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                    • kc8adu
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
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                      #11
                      Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                      those are on vdimm.
                      i use sanyo sepc 560@4v
                      vdimm is 2.5v +-

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                      • PCBONEZ
                        Grumpy Old Fart
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10661
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                        KC,

                        How do you know they are not on high volt side of Vdimm regulator and on 5v and those HMs on the low side?
                        - I'm not agruing, I'm asking to learn. You've been doing this longer than I.
                        .
                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                        -
                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                        - Dr Seuss
                        -
                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                        • PCBONEZ
                          Grumpy Old Fart
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10661
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                          I think I see KZG in there too.
                          ):
                          Mann-Made Global Warming.
                          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                          -
                          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                          - Dr Seuss
                          -
                          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                          • kc8adu
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
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                            #14
                            Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                            if in doubt fire it up and measure.
                            i have done a bunch of these boards but anyone can be wrong.

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                            • kc8adu
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8832
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                              #15
                              Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                              Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                              I think I see KZG in there too.
                              ):
                              looks like fujitsu re and rubycon mbz on vcore.
                              niether likely to go bad.
                              kzg on vrm in ok too.dont recall seeing those go other than asus boards in hp boxen where vrm section gets really hot.

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                              • Phaihn
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 842
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                                Im getting a replacment from ebay but i still plan to recap this sometime.
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                                • Phaihn
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jan 2009
                                  • 842
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                                  #17
                                  Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                                  Originally posted by kc8adu
                                  looks like fujitsu re and rubycon mbz on vcore.
                                  niether likely to go bad.
                                  kzg on vrm in ok too.dont recall seeing those go other than asus boards in hp boxen where vrm section gets really hot.
                                  i think the bad caps were coused by my old power suply it was sparking so i replaced it.
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                                  • Phaihn
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jan 2009
                                    • 842
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                                    #18
                                    Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                                    Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                    I think I see KZG in there too.
                                    ):
                                    KZG?
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                                    • Phaihn
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Jan 2009
                                      • 842
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                                      #19
                                      Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                                      Originally posted by kc8adu
                                      if in doubt fire it up and measure.
                                      i have done a bunch of these boards but anyone can be wrong.
                                      Fire it up and measure?
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                                      • PCBONEZ
                                        Grumpy Old Fart
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 10661
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                                        #20
                                        Re: replaceing caps on d865perl

                                        This was a while ago now but I've had bad KZG on some MSI [i845 chipset] boards on both high and low sides of VRM. [KZG were not in high and low at the same time on one board. If they had KZG on high side they had MBZ on low and visa/versa.]

                                        KZG looked okay but measured bad.
                                        Boards weren't booting at all so I changed all the KZG out with MBZ and that fixed it.
                                        -
                                        The boards had Teapo on them too but I didn't replace those until later after replacing the KZG got them booting again.

                                        I don't think heat could be the issue on the VRM 16v side KZG. Those had lots of room for air flow and the cases weren't small and were well ventilated.
                                        PSU's were all different and checked out okay.

                                        Maybe my experience was a fluke but I still don't trust KZG in anything.

                                        .
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                                        -
                                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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                                        -
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