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  • pllasma
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 16
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    #1

    Help with Capacitor

    I have a capacitor from a subwoofer with the following info:

    Samxon
    3300uF80V
    LP (M)
    85C -NEG

    Or view my attachment..

    There is a brown/tag substance at the bottom, does that mean it is bad?

    Also, and more importantly, I cannot find this exact capacitor anywhere, how would I find the exact replacement or is there an alternative part I can get?

    Thank you,

    Dave
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Help with Capacitor

    Bad glues that will turn brown and become conductive and also eat away traces and wires, if you see it any where on the boards you must remove them.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
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    • pllasma
      Member
      • Jun 2015
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      #3
      Re: Help with Capacitor

      Originally posted by budm
      Bad glues that will turn brown and become conductive and also eat away traces and wires, if you see it any where on the boards you must remove them.


      Can I remove the bad glue and salvage the capacitor? If so do I need to add new glue?

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      • SteveNielsen
        Retired Tech
        • Jun 2012
        • 2327
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Help with Capacitor

        It doesn't need glue. That was only to hold those parts in the board before it went through the soldering process. Test the cap if you can. It won't necessarily be bad because the glue was there.

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        • pllasma
          Member
          • Jun 2015
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          #5
          Re: Help with Capacitor

          Can I test it still attached or is it better to remove the capacitor first?

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          • SteveNielsen
            Retired Tech
            • Jun 2012
            • 2327
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Help with Capacitor

            Better to test it removed so no other parts of the circuit it's in will affect the measurements. What do you have to test it with?

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            • pllasma
              Member
              • Jun 2015
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              #7
              Re: Help with Capacitor

              I was able to test both capacitors. Here is their behavior. Please excuse my lingo I am NOT an expert at circuit boards. The first capacitor went up to 20 ohms then I reversed the voltmeter leads it went down to 0 ohms then up to 2 ohms and stopped.

              The second capacitor went up to 10 ohms, when I reverse the leads on the voltmeter it went to 0 ohms and only up to 2 ohms before it stopped


              Both capacitors have the same exact specs on the outside.

              Does that sound like normal behavior for those?

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              • SteveNielsen
                Retired Tech
                • Jun 2012
                • 2327
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Help with Capacitor

                A DC ohms check like that is not a reliable test. All that tells you is that the cap charges up to some degree and isn't a dead short or open circuit but nothing about the actual capacitance. You need a capacitance meter capable of measuring that high of a capacitance and preferably tests ESR too. Then you can get an idea of the caps condition.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Help with Capacitor

                  Is the sub woofer still working?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • pllasma
                    Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 16
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                    #10
                    Re: Help with Capacitor

                    Originally posted by budm
                    Is the sub woofer still working?

                    For about six months, it was working, but making either high chirps or a low hum. 2 weeks ago it stopped working but still makes the noises.

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30934
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: Help with Capacitor

                      show us the rest of the board - both sides.

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                      • pllasma
                        Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 16
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                        #12
                        Re: Help with Capacitor

                        Originally posted by stj
                        show us the rest of the board - both sides.

                        I will once I get home later today..

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                        • pllasma
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: Help with Capacitor

                          Had a meter at work that tests for capacitance. For the 3300 uF capacitor, it's reading 2940. Is that an indication that it could be bad or is that within normal range?

                          also hooked up a 1.5 V batter to charge the cap and it's staying pretty much at 1.5 draining very very slowly
                          Last edited by pllasma; 07-01-2015, 11:54 AM.

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