Manufacturer of these caps?

[baddiecap]

Sorry if this is a duplicate. I searched this forum a bit and didn't see this capacitor specifically in my searches. Anyone know the manufacturer of the capacitor on this board? Usually Gigabyte says all Japanese capacitors but this board did not specify.

[ben7]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

Looks like Apaq to me.

[stj]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

correct.
http://capacitor.web.fc2.com/solidcapacitor.html

[baddiecap]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

Thanks guys! Those middle quality or garbage?

[mariushm]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

They're polymer capacitors, so it really matters very little if they're Japanese or not. Polymer capacitors are way more reliable compared to electrolytic capacitors and they don't have as many ways to fail as electrolytics.
Apaq is used heavily by lots of motherboard makers, Asus for example used them a lot.

They don't fail more or less than other brands so no need to worry.

[Kvicala_R]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

Hi.
Any tip if can be fake/real panasonic?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171193345673...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I measured it and cap is about 980u, ESR (AVR tester) showed 0,00R while Nippon LXZ 1000/10 showed 0,08R..
I tried to find DS, no way - somebody mentioned that is limited for MTB supplier.
Thanks!

[ben7]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

Hi.
Any tip if can be fake/real panasonic?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171193345673...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I measured it and cap is about 980u, ESR (AVR tester) showed 0,00R while Nippon LXZ 1000/10 showed 0,08R..
I tried to find DS, no way - somebody mentioned that is limited for MTB supplier.
Thanks!

Looking at the pictures, they look real to me. Hard to tell what the supplier might send, though

If the LXZ cap you have is the 8mm diameter, then yes, that is correct. The datasheet actually says 0.08 ohms for the 8mm diameter one! :P



The FL are low ESR electrolytic caps, I think this is one of the series with the elusive datasheet. So I don't know what ESR it should measure. But it should be quite low.

-Ben

[mockingbird]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

As a general rule, if you find good-looking counterfeits on eBay, check if the seller is also listing obvious counterfeits. If this is the case, the genuine-looking parts are fake too.

I would say yours are fake. In fact, I would say -all- Panasonic FJ/FL on eBay are fake.

[Kvicala_R]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

There are pictures of package (detail) for info. Do somebody knows this series to confirm that is OK/NOK?

[ben7]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

They look pretty good to me.
Let's see what the other folks here have to say.

[mockingbird]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

I just had an idea.

Why don't you cut open a genuine Panasonic FL and these, and compare the insides.

With polymer caps, the difference between quality and secon-tier ones is night and day. It might not be so apparent with electrolytics, but you might try sniffing the elctrolyte, if you can't see any difference in the foil.

[Kvicala_R]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

Because I don't have any "original" available. Even on Farnell I was not able to find this series...

[stj]

Re: Manufacturer of these caps?

you wont, they were only sold to motherboard makers.
that's why the leads are short - so a robot can stuff them in the board.