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  • Phaihn
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2009
    • 842
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    #1

    Question about operating temp and life span

    ii have been trying to find 2200UF 16V caps and all i am finding is 2000hr @ 105 -55-105 is that an accepable operating life time?
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  • retiredcaps
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #2
    Re: Question about operating temp and life span

    Panasonic FR 2200uF 16V

    http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail...402-ND/2433536

    Lifetime @ Temp. 10000 Hrs @ 105°C
    Operating Temperature -40°C ~ 105°C

    Relationship between the two explained by PCBONEZ at

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...30&postcount=7
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    • Phaihn
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2009
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      #3
      Re: Question about operating temp and life span

      i needed 10 mm that one is too big and i allready ordered some.
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      • Phaihn
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jan 2009
        • 842
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Question about operating temp and life span

        10 x 1800uF 6.3v 8mm HN Series (NHN1800@6.3-8x20) = $6.70
        13 x 680uF 16v 8mm ZL Series (RZL680@16-8x20) = $6.89
        4 x 2200uF 16v 10mm PX Series (RPX2200@16-10x20) = $3.28
        My Computer.
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        • Phaihn
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jan 2009
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          #5
          Re: Question about operating temp and life span

          still waiting for these -Le sigh.
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          • momaka
            master hoarder
            • May 2008
            • 12170
            • Bulgaria

            #6
            Re: Question about operating temp and life span

            Originally posted by Phaihn
            all i am finding is 2000hr @ 105 -55-105 is that an accepable operating life time?
            That 2000 hour rating is Endurance, not Life Time. It simply states for how long you can "abuse" the cap with maximum ripple, voltage, and at max temperature (105C in this case) before it goes out of spec or vents.

            Rubycon PX is general purpose series. Usually not good enough for PSUs and definitely not good enough for motherboard use.

            As far as 16V 2200uF caps in a 10 mm diameter can - yeah, those are hard to find indeed, especially PSU grade. For PSUs, AFAIK Samxon RS is pretty much the only caps you can find in that capacitance and size.... unless UCC makes some custom order caps for us (see this thread).
            Last edited by momaka; 03-11-2013, 07:22 PM.

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            • Phaihn
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jan 2009
              • 842
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: Question about operating temp and life span

              i ordered what i needed from the badcaps store just still waiting on my order
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              AMD APU A4-3300 2.5ghz 1mb cache
              Motherboard GigaByte GA-A75M-S2V
              Kingston HyperX Blue DDR3 8GB (2x4GB)

              SB Audigy 2 ZS [B800] Sound Card
              500GB WD Caviar® Blue™
              1 Terabyte WD Caviar® Black™
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              • mockingbird
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2008
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                #8
                Re: Question about operating temp and life span

                As far as 16V 2200uF caps in a 10 mm diameter can - yeah, those are hard to find indeed, especially PSU grade. For PSUs, AFAIK Samxon RS is pretty much the only caps you can find in that capacitance and size.... unless UCC makes some custom order caps for us (see this thread).
                That thread is for 16V 3300uF caps...

                16V 2200uF caps in 10mm are available:
                http://www.newark.com/panasonic/eeuf...6v/dp/32R8994#

                These are suitable for power supplies and have a 4000 hour endurance rating. I wonder what those endurance ratings actually mean.

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                • LDSisHere
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2012
                  • 727
                  • U.S.A.

                  #9
                  Re: Question about operating temp and life span

                  Originally posted by mockingbird
                  That thread is for 16V 3300uF caps...

                  16V 2200uF caps in 10mm are available:
                  http://www.newark.com/panasonic/eeuf...6v/dp/32R8994#

                  These are suitable for power supplies and have a 4000 hour endurance rating. I wonder what those endurance ratings actually mean.
                  Thanks for the useful link, I have been reluctantly stuck using Rubycon PX when I cannot get a 12.5mm cap to fit.

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