Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • bw1
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 172

    #1

    Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

    Still getting the hang of finding good replacements when the spec sheets don't include all specs.

    Would a Chemi-Con KY series be a good replacement for an OST RLS series?

    1,000uf 10v.

    If not, does anyone have any better recommendations?
  • c_hegge
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2009
    • 5219
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

    The ideal replacment for RLS is Chemi-Con KZE, Rubycon ZL or Nichicon HD. KY has a higher ESR.

    Btw, KZE is NOT affected by the problem that plagues KZG and KZJ.
    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

    Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

    Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

    Comment

    • PCBONEZ
      Grumpy Old Fart
      • Aug 2005
      • 10661
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

      Originally posted by c_hegge
      The ideal replacment for RLS is Chemi-Con KZE, Rubycon ZL or Nichicon HD. KY has a higher ESR.

      Btw, KZE is NOT affected by the problem that plagues KZG and KZJ.
      Yes, assuming the same can size that is correct.
      Also Sanyo/Suncon WX, Illinois Capacitor KXM, and NIC Components NRSG.
      .
      Mann-Made Global Warming.
      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

      -
      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

      - Dr Seuss
      -
      You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
      -

      Comment

      • bw1
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 172

        #4
        Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

        It looks like those are all 10x12.5 or bigger? The original here is 8x12.5. Thoughts?

        Comment

        • bw1
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 172

          #5
          Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

          I did just notice that I originally said 10v, but these are indeed 1000uf/6.3v. :S

          Comment

          • c_hegge
            Badcaps Legend
            • Sep 2009
            • 5219
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

            Is it on a motherboard or a PSU? If it's on a motherboard, these will work just fine.
            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

            Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

            Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

            Comment

            • bw1
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 172

              #7
              Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

              Motherboard from a Gateway E-2610D, ECS motherboard 945GT-GB V:1.1. Just a few are bad around the north/south bridge, but 14 of this same cap on board and will probably replace just the 14 of this particular cap. The rest all look fine and are other make - e.g. Ruby MBZ, etc.

              I'm probably going to be doing a LOT of these boards in the near future.

              Comment

              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                Originally posted by bw1
                It looks like those are all 10x12.5 or bigger? The original here is 8x12.5. Thoughts?
                Yes.
                Brush up on reading data sheets.
                The 10 Volt 8mm 1000uF RLS [should be] 16mm or 20mm long.
                Also ZL, KZE, KXM, WX, HD, and NRSG [in other words every series suggested] all have a 1000uF 10v 8x20mm.

                If the height is a problem that's another story but it shouldn't be an issue in most cases.

                ~~~

                That said, I falsely assumed c_hegge checked the RLS data sheet before posting.

                The 8x16mm 1000uF 10v is only .090 ohms ESR and 818 mA for Ripple.
                The 8x20mm 1000uF 10v is only .067 ohms ESR and 1023 mA for Ripple.
                [If it's actually 12.5mm long as you said then it's a custom size and the specs will be worse in a smaller can.]
                -
                KY - 6.3v 8x15mm - .087 ohms ESR and 840 mA for Ripple
                KY - 10v 8x20mm - .069 ohms ESR and 1050 mA for Ripple.
                -
                In this size anyway KY is about as close to an exact match as you can get.
                The caps mentioned earlier would be a reasonable upgrade though.
                .
                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                -
                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                - Dr Seuss
                -
                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                -

                Comment

                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=565-1647-ND
                  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=565-1486-ND
                  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=493-1467-ND

                  Since you need many....
                  The 10v KZE would be my choice because it's an upgrade and only $0.255 each over 10 pieces.
                  .
                  Last edited by PCBONEZ; 05-02-2011, 04:07 AM.
                  Mann-Made Global Warming.
                  - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                  -
                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                  - Dr Seuss
                  -
                  You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                  -

                  Comment

                  • bw1
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 172

                    #10
                    Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                    I'm probably leaning towards the KY's - it'd be around $65 for qty. 500 at Digikey for these, which seems decent, and also because the only 1000uf/6.3v KZE's that I see there are 10x12.5, unless I'm missing them.

                    I'd prefer purchase from Digikey if at all possible.

                    Comment

                    • c_hegge
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5219
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                      No, I didn't check the datasheets. I NEVER do. I just assummed that RLS = HD = ZL = KZE = WX, since those are about the highest ESR series I usually see on motherboards.
                      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                      Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                      Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

                      Comment

                      • PCBONEZ
                        Grumpy Old Fart
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10661
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                        Originally posted by bw1
                        I'm probably leaning towards the KY's - it'd be around $65 for qty. 500 at Digikey for these, which seems decent, and also because the only 1000uf/6.3v KZE's that I see there are 10x12.5, unless I'm missing them.

                        I'd prefer purchase from Digikey if at all possible.
                        See links above.
                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                        -
                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                        - Dr Seuss
                        -
                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                        -

                        Comment

                        • bw1
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 172

                          #13
                          Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                          Went with the 10v KZE's.

                          I know they're compatible, but didn't think to search UP a voltage. I guess I was thinking that since the 6.3's were too big (10mm vs. 8mm), that a bigger voltage wouldn't be any smaller in size.

                          Comment

                          • PCBONEZ
                            Grumpy Old Fart
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10661
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                            Yup.
                            Sometimes the sizes they choose to make don't make much sense.
                            Not even sure why they still make both 6.3v and 10v when a 10v will work for both.
                            Mann-Made Global Warming.
                            - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                            -
                            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                            - Dr Seuss
                            -
                            You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                            -

                            Comment

                            • bw1
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 172

                              #15
                              Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                              Replaced 60 caps between 4 boards and all are working perfectly -- thank you for your help pcbonez!!!

                              Comment

                              • PCBONEZ
                                Grumpy Old Fart
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10661
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Chemi-Con KY to replace OST RLS?

                                You're welcome & Congrats!
                                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                -
                                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                - Dr Seuss
                                -
                                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                -

                                Comment

                                Related Topics

                                Collapse

                                • David Stroe
                                  AOC CQ27G2U/BK - in need of data sheets
                                  by David Stroe
                                  I am trying to repair my monitor that shows image but the backlight is not turning on. I think either the power supply is not working properly or the LED strip is failing, which seems unlikely (the whole strip is off).

                                  I really need help in finding the data sheets for this monitor's boards. The data sheets I need are for the following boards:

                                  Power Supply: 715GA907-P03-000-001S and 715GA721-P01-000-0H4K
                                  Main Board: 715G9500-M0C-B00-005K
                                  T-CON Board: 19Y_270_EU3MQ_SR_V02_HF

                                  If someone could please provide any of these data sheets, it would be awesome....
                                  05-31-2025, 11:12 AM
                                • Raulnn
                                  clean hisense inner sheets
                                  by Raulnn
                                  Can you clean the internal sheets of a tv? I have a 58-inch TV and I don't know if it's worth cleaning the sheets. I have seen that it has dirt on the sheets and the leds are blown. I don't know if they look good when you clean the sheets. Thanks in advance.
                                  01-22-2023, 05:19 PM
                                • chth96
                                  Is it no harm to replace with capacitor without ripple current rating?
                                  by chth96
                                  When I tried to repair LG 29 inch CRT TV, I found that the ESR value of samyoung SMS capacitor(160v 2.2uf), which is very close to D1879 transistor, is 6 ohm.


                                  Judging from above ESR Meter Table,I think It is necessary to replace this sms capacitor.So I visited local electronics shop,and I purchased 160v 2.2uf rubycon YK capacitor.
                                  But when I browse through rubycon YK datasheet,I found that there is no ripple current rating for 160v 2.2uf specification. But On the contrary, I found 39 mA ripple current rating for 160v 2.2uf SMS capacitor.
                                  Rubycon YK DataSheet (b...
                                  04-19-2024, 05:19 AM
                                • RetroComputingGrotto
                                  Opinions/Advice on Do/Should I replace ALL Electrolytic Capacitors on old equipment?
                                  by RetroComputingGrotto
                                  I've just been repairing some (very) old speakers with a loud hum that occurred as soon as you powered them on regardless if any actual audio is played through them. I work in a School so it's 99% likey that the Teachers have hardly ever turned the power off on them for well over 10+ years.



                                  As you can see the top large capacitor on the right has a bulge on the top so defincately needs replacing. As the one next to it is exactly the same capacity and voltage I planned to replace them both.


                                  What is your advice/opinion on whether or not on old(er)...
                                  04-03-2024, 08:30 AM
                                • chth96
                                  Is it okay to replace 1/2 watt resistor with 1 watt resistor in AC/DC adapter?
                                  by chth96
                                  I have purchased an 100-240v AC/5v 2a DC adaptor from aliexpress,and a month ago It smelled burning when I plugin it powerstrip.
                                  Since then, This AC/DC adaptor have been out of order.
                                  But A few days ago,I replace 0.5 watt resistor with 1 watt resistor(1ohm) in this adapter.
                                  After replacing resistor,It succeed to recharge all of android phone.And When I measure voltage on the two pins of USB port,It shows 5.5v
                                  Is it okay to replace 1/2 watt resistor with 1 watt resistor in AC/DC adapter?
                                  And Is there any possibility that it will suddenly explode as well as to be out...
                                  12-03-2023, 04:40 AM
                                • Loading...
                                • No more items.
                                Working...