Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

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  • Dannyx
    CertifiedAxhole
    • Aug 2016
    • 3912
    • Romania

    #1

    Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

    Good day folks. Got a pretty big (literally) project on my hands here, which I believe I'm on the path of fixing, but of course I'd like to share my discoveries with you and hopefully get some tips as well. This big beast has a dead Y-sus board (TNPA5335) which is a common fault on these Panasonics, signaled by the 7 red blinks of the LED when you attempt to power it on. I took the back cover off and was immediately greeted with the worst case of dust buildup I've ever seen in a TV so far (check the photos). It had actually gone beyond what would be called "dust" - it was more like soil or mud which had a brown color, hinting the set is used in a smoking environment, presumably a bar or a pub, also confirmed by the tobacco scent...anyway.
    The actual problem comes down to some dead IGBTs on the Y-sus board, which I might be able to source, however I'm worried that they might blow again, since the repair videos and kits also provide a few other smaller parts, namely the two ICs I took a picture of up close (my good ol' Galaxy S3 and a couple of magnifiers make a pretty cool microscope, wouldn't you say ? ). Check out the schematic I found for this board: the ICs in question which everybody seems to replace are IC502 and Q531, which in the schematic for some reason are labeled as IC16502 and Q16531 - I could not find anything about these things, what they are and what they do. As far as I can make out from the schematic, the Q531 is a double PNP-NPN transistor, however what it does and what it controls is a little over my head. The other IC I have no idea what it could be - it obviously does some control of that transistor, but I could not find an exact datasheet or part number. The thing is, neither of these two smaller parts appear to be bad, or at least the multimeter didn't signal any shorts - the functionality of the parts might have been affected :| So, does anybody know what these two ICs are and whether or not I should replace them ? Cheers.
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  • Moreno83
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jun 2014
    • 2008
    • The Netherlands

    #2
    Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

    If you searched this forum then you would have found the answer!

    IC502 is a driver ic and the part number is : BD8693FVM
    3Y (SMD Code) is a CPH5524-TL-E

    Replace the 6 igbt's with FGD4536TM ( from a good source!! ) and replace the ic + transistor and you are probably good to go. Unless the buffers are bad.
    I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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    • Moreno83
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      • Jun 2014
      • 2008
      • The Netherlands

      #3
      Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

      Ps , on this board the 2 small parts are usually not bad but its best to replace them! They took a big hit.
      I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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      • flocko
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        • Nov 2012
        • 1121
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

        On your board the transistor array Q531 shows a code of YO2 this was also used as a replacement for the CPH5524_TL-E on a few boards but is hard to find. I would test and replace all IGBTs / diodes + gate resistors that test as faulty,there are lot of post on the repair of these boards that can be found by searching though the forum

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        • Dannyx
          CertifiedAxhole
          • Aug 2016
          • 3912
          • Romania

          #5
          Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

          Originally posted by Moreno83
          If you searched this forum then you would have found the answer!

          IC502 is a driver ic and the part number is : BD8693FVM
          3Y (SMD Code) is a CPH5524-TL-E

          Replace the 6 igbt's with FGD4536TM ( from a good source!! ) and replace the ic + transistor and you are probably good to go. Unless the buffers are bad.
          Yes, I admit I did not browse the forum first, so thanks for bearing with me, however I did do some research first, which is where I got all the info from. The text in the schematic is too small to see, so I could see something written there but couldn't make it out, that's why I couldn't find those things...searching by the model listed in the repair kit proved to be of no help either, so I must ask how you found those Pardon me if it's a silly question.
          Wattevah...

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          • Moreno83
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            • Jun 2014
            • 2008
            • The Netherlands

            #6
            Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

            Its not a silly question. I agree with you that some service manuals are not that clear.
            The parts on these boards are used in all 2011 models like S30 / UT30 / GT30 / VT30 etc so there are more service manuals.


            If you search for IC16502 in the service manual then you will find the parts list.
            IC16502 = C0ZBZ0001822. If you google this part you will find it.

            The IC itself reads "D86903". Google the part and you will find it also
            Last edited by Moreno83; 02-02-2017, 03:25 PM.
            I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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            • Dannyx
              CertifiedAxhole
              • Aug 2016
              • 3912
              • Romania

              #7
              Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

              Originally posted by Moreno83
              Its not a silly question. I agree with you that some service manuals are not that clear.
              The parts on these boards are used in all 2011 models like S30 / UT30 / GT30 / VT30 etc so there are more service manuals.


              If you search for IC16502 in the service manual then you will find the parts list.
              IC16502 = C0ZBZ0001822. If you google this part you will find it.

              The IC itself reads "D86903". Google the part and you will find it also
              I actually did search for that C0ZBZ business, but couldn't find a datasheet, as that's what I'm mostly interested in, just to see what it is and what it does....true, I might not have dug deep enough :|
              Wattevah...

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              • Moreno83
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                • Jun 2014
                • 2008
                • The Netherlands

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                Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                Maybe this will help you :

                http://www.alldatasheet.net/view.jsp...R%20Datenblatt
                I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                • Dannyx
                  CertifiedAxhole
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 3912
                  • Romania

                  #9
                  Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                  Originally posted by Moreno83
                  Yeah, figured it would be such a component - cheers Hopefully it will all work out in the end.....it HAS to, for it's not mine: it belongs to a client so some money is at stake too
                  Wattevah...

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                  • Moreno83
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                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2008
                    • The Netherlands

                    #10
                    Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                    Watch out with the repair kits because 90% is filled with fake components and your board will blow.

                    Its best to get RJP30H2A ( no fakes ) or FGD4536TM
                    I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                    • Dannyx
                      CertifiedAxhole
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 3912
                      • Romania

                      #11
                      Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                      Originally posted by Moreno83
                      If you searched this forum then you would have found the answer!

                      IC502 is a driver ic and the part number is : BD8693FVM
                      3Y (SMD Code) is a CPH5524-TL-E

                      Replace the 6 igbt's with FGD4536TM ( from a good source!! ) and replace the ic + transistor and you are probably good to go. Unless the buffers are bad.
                      There's something that worries me: the buffer board you mentioned. Could it be the reason why the Y-sus died in the first place ? Is there a way to check it ? The IGBTs themselves are pretty expensive, so it would be a colossal waste of time and money to replace them only to have them blow again.
                      Wattevah...

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                      • Dannyx
                        CertifiedAxhole
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 3912
                        • Romania

                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                        Also are the FGD4536TM suitable for replacing ALL of the 9 IGBTs ? There's 6 30f131 and 3 RJPs.
                        Wattevah...

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                        • tvtimmy
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                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1160
                          • usa

                          #13
                          Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                          Yes. They will sub for both of those.

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                          • Dannyx
                            CertifiedAxhole
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 3912
                            • Romania

                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic TX-P50GT30E plasma TV failed Y-sus board

                            Originally posted by tvtimmy
                            Yes. They will sub for both of those.
                            Yeah, had a look at the datasheets, so I should get 9 of those.
                            Wattevah...

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