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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

    Originally posted by brucetv
    Wow, only 161DCV, maybe there is hope. Bad power supply then?
    Is that the reading when PS-ON is present?
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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

      Need to get the P/N of the 8-pin SMD next to the PFC INDUCTOR L8 to find out if it is getting the VCC to run or not.
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1473343187
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • brucetv
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2015
        • 281
        • united states

        #23
        Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

        Still no voltages on those two pins with the red and white led connectors disconected. We are a cell phone/gadget repair shop and we love to learn new things and learn from this forum about Tv repair in our spare time. So we are trying to learn how to diagnose Tv's and do more component level repair we have learned here.

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        • brucetv
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2015
          • 281
          • united states

          #24
          Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

          Yes, I get 165DCV with the Tv turned on

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

            Need to get that P/N of the PFC IC per post 22.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

              Need to check PFC diodes, and also good clear pictures of the area in red box top side and bottom side of the board.
              Attached Files
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • brucetv
                Badcaps Veteran
                • May 2015
                • 281
                • united states

                #27
                Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                It looks like it's U4 but there is no part numbers on the top. Do I leave ground on chassis and check the legs for voltages with the tv on?

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                • brucetv
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2015
                  • 281
                  • united states

                  #28
                  Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                  The two diodes D34 and D6 each read 0.410 and the 8 pin at U4 just has a lot of liquor with no numbers
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                  • brucetv
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • May 2015
                    • 281
                    • united states

                    #29
                    Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                    Here is a close up under the microscope for that 8 pin at U4. I scraped away some of the coating but still didn't see any numbers
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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                      Try Alcohol or Acetone on the Q-TIP to remove the stuff off the top of the IC.
                      The VCC will be read between the GND pin (or negative leg of the main filter cap in the primary side and the VCC pin, do not use chassis GND because you are working on the primary side, the Negative leg of the main filter cap is the GND ref. point for the meter.
                      We cannot do much unless we have the P/N of the IC, otherwise it will be a lot of board tracing.
                      Last edited by budm; 09-08-2016, 06:55 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • brucetv
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2015
                        • 281
                        • united states

                        #31
                        Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                        I'm looking at it under the microscope and can't see any numbers on that 8 pin on U4. I found a OEM board for $88.00 so I can order one and I'll probably look at that U4 to see if it has numbers so I can find out the specs on it before I install the new one. If I can get one from mouser or digikey I'd like to change that out to see if that is what kept the backlights from coming on. Thanks for your patience and sharing the knowledge. I almost forgot the importance of grounding on the filter cap vs chassis on the hot side so thanks for reminding me. When I got proper voltages on the connector I didn't think to check the voltages on the main filter cap especially when I could see a menu image. Thank you sir.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                          BTW, ORION is the OEM of HITACHI, and a lot of other brands.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_Electric
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • brucetv
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • May 2015
                            • 281
                            • united states

                            #33
                            Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                            Thanks for the info BudM. I didn't relize Orion made Tv's for so many brands which explains why I've probably seen this chassis before. I live near Wal Mart headquarters and they are spewing this crap out to their customers with no regard for quality. We are starting to see pre-mature backlight failures so with your help we are learning proper diagnostic procedures and learning how to trace the boards more in order to do more component level repairs vs board swapping for maximum profits. I'll update as soon as the new board comes in and hopefully I can find some numbers on the 8 pin ic to see what the specs are before I install it.

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                            • brucetv
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2015
                              • 281
                              • united states

                              #34
                              Re: Hitachi LE65K6R9 has menu image but no backlights

                              Update. The new power supply came in and I looked at the U4 but once again it had a ton of protective coating and my isopropyl alcohol didn't budge it but did magnify it and it looked like a WM and 4 numbers. The Tv fired up nicely and I was glad to see that it was actually a bad component on the LED Driver/Power Supply vs bad led's. I wasn't in the mood to remove a 65" panel. I will examine the board and hope to find the shorted circuit and update when I get caught back up in the shop. Thanks Budm for all your help.

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