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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

    Which cap is that one on the board, c???
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    • diif
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      • Feb 2014
      • 6978
      • England

      #22
      Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

      C102

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      • dick_barton
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        • Aug 2015
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        #23
        Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

        Good luck when it arrives.
        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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        • diif
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2014
          • 6978
          • England

          #24
          Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

          I've fitted the cap but i'm still getting the enable voltage fluctuating and too low.
          I'm missing something...

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          • diif
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2014
            • 6978
            • England

            #25
            Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

            Seems the cap is a 3kv not a 1kv. Is that going to make a difference ?

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

              Not the cap Voltage problem, you still have other problem in the circuit.
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              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • diif
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                • Feb 2014
                • 6978
                • England

                #27
                Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                I'm struggling to see what though. I've removed all of the mosfets and caps and pulled up a leg on the diodes and resistors and they all measure fine.

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                • dick_barton
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                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6642
                  • Wales

                  #28
                  Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                  What voltages are you measuring with everything connected and powered up as shown in the box???
                  Attached Files
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • dick_barton
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                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6642
                    • Wales

                    #29
                    Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                    Also what voltages do you have at the various pins as shown in the attachment. You also need to make sure that the chain of resistors attached to pin 4 are exactly as they should be.
                    Attached Files
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                    • diif
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 6978
                      • England

                      #30
                      Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                      There are no voltages present on that connector with everything connected

                      With just the PSU receiving power the voltages on the SSC1S311 are

                      1) 316mv
                      2) 0v
                      3) NC
                      4) 266v
                      5) 0v
                      6) 0v
                      7) 11-14v fluctuating
                      8) 0v

                      I do find 2.5v on Q802 though, I wonder if this is a low standby voltage ?

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                      • dick_barton
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                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6642
                        • Wales

                        #31
                        Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                        OK so no secondary voltages.
                        Resistances leading to Pin 4 all checked ?

                        IC Pin4 nice high voltage but don't know if its's what is should be

                        Suggest you change the IC.
                        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                        • budm
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                          Did you find and replace the start up cap that is connected to the VCC pin? You are sure that it is C103?
                          Per spec of the IC, the Vstart (Vs) is between 18~24V, 21V typ.
                          I suspect the IC as well, but you should also check the rectifer in the secondary side to make sure they are not shorted.
                          Last edited by budm; 06-23-2016, 09:20 AM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • diif
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                            • Feb 2014
                            • 6978
                            • England

                            #33
                            Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                            Thank you, I appreciate the help.

                            Yes, pulled the legs on all of the resistors and diodes to check.

                            Is the startup cap C108 ? 0.1uF 50v ? It's a tiny ceramic cap i have no way of measuring.
                            Could you help me identify the rectifier on the secondary side please.
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                            • budm
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                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                              OK, you have the diagram, I wish we get to see that from the beginning.
                              C103 is the startup/running cap.
                              Per diagram: Rectifiers in the secondary cold side are D201 (for standby +B24 which feeds the switched 24V) , D204 (for standby 85V DD), D203 and D205 for the 3.5V STBY.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • dick_barton
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                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6642
                                • Wales

                                #35
                                Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                                start testing D201, D203, D204, D205 to start with. Have you checked C103, D102, D103, ZD103, Where did the schematic appear from?
                                Last edited by dick_barton; 06-23-2016, 11:03 AM.
                                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                • diif
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                                  • Feb 2014
                                  • 6978
                                  • England

                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                                  Apologies, I only found it yesterday when I was at work and have just pulled it off my laptop. I did try and find it when i started with no luck.

                                  C103 99.4uF 0.06ohms

                                  With the diode setting on multimeter
                                  D201 0.327v
                                  D203 0.175v
                                  D204 0.404v
                                  D205 0.208v
                                  D102 0.488v
                                  ZD102 0.496v

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                                  • dick_barton
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                                    • Aug 2015
                                    • 6642
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                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                                    Those readings appear to be OK. Did you also test the diodes with the leads reversed to ensure they read high or OL on your meter.
                                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                    • ReeceyBurger123
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                                      • May 2014
                                      • 7325
                                      • Britain

                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                                      Think I read something about the Smps controller for these failing. Will see if I can find it then will link it.
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                                      • diif
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                                        • Feb 2014
                                        • 6978
                                        • England

                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                                        Originally posted by dick_barton
                                        Those readings appear to be OK. Did you also test the diodes with the leads reversed to ensure they read high or OL on your meter.
                                        Thanks, yes either started high, rising to OL or just OL.

                                        Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                                        Think I read something about the Smps controller for these failing. Will see if I can find it then will link it.
                                        Cheers mate.

                                        IC101 SSC1S311A as suggested by budm and dick_barton ?

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                                        • ppx2006
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                                          • Dec 2016
                                          • 3
                                          • Portugal

                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 42LN5400 no standby.

                                          Hi,Diif

                                          I have the same problem with Power Supply of my LG 32LN575N, did you resolve the issue?

                                          Thanks.
                                          ppx

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