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  • R1racer
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    • Nov 2015
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    Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

    Hello every one ....Samsung PN50B550T2fxza was working great and one morning it shut it self down and power back up .Suspected power surge .Then thru the day it went completely dead, though it is the caps but they all appeared good. The only way i was able to bring it back to power back up is to disconnect the Main board ( BN96-12139A). I bought the manual and followed trouble shooting process i had standby light up front and TV was very responsive with picture and sound except it power it self down after 15-20 Minute minute to exact with all Voltage reading correctly at VA, Vscan & Vg ..fast forward .

    I did not want to dump money on a main board without extra support as i though man it could be power supply so my local electronic store trouble shot it and said main board .. However now when i brought it back home the screen was totally dead and no standby light , NO SMPS relay clicking NOTHING , No Logic B’d LED on, all AC Input voltage present , connector going to power supply show 122 AC ,no blown fuses . Pin #3 STBY =5v Yes , Pin #2 PS-On =0 V So since it is yes repair manual show replace main

    i took it back to the shop as the symptoms got from bad to worse after i picked it up ( specially i had picture , sound , standby light up in the panel ) they said it's main board . Then off course they told me the TV will be dead without a good main . Well it wasn't when i took it in and it was operational except it power it self off and goes dead and now it's nothing but weight. Well that did not go any where with them , So i took it home and I retested by starting at the SMPS (Power supply ) same result as my 1st test , SO i picked up a refurbish main board from e-bay seller stuck it in but got the same result = dead set with the same test result on the voltmeter.

    Whats the odd of me buying a bad Main board . Also what else they could off done( the electronic Shop) that resulted from having a TV that with some what functioning to nothing but paper weight ..


    I am buying another main but

    Does the revision # have to be the same when buying a refurbished main

    If the main board is truly bad would the set behave in this manner .

    What happened to my Logic B’d LED on , It use to function but now all is gone together


    i am open to all suggestions.

    Thank you



    Last edited by R1racer; 11-11-2015, 09:21 PM.
  • R1racer
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    #2
    Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

    No One

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    • R1racer
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      Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

      I should have Main board ( BN96-12139A) version 1016.1 ordered and on it's way , Should i be looking for something else ...

      Any one

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      • freakaftr8
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        Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

        The model is known for having bad connections on the primary MOSFET to the power supply you might want to check the solder connections on the backside of the power supply near the primary side MOSFETs to see if you have a breach in connection. Where you still getting 5 volts to the main board?
        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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        • R1racer
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          Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

          Originally posted by freakaftr8
          The model is known for having bad connections on the primary MOSFET to the power supply you might want to check the solder connections on the backside of the power supply near the primary side MOSFETs to see if you have a breach in connection. Where you still getting 5 volts to the main board?

          Please explain Is the MOSFETS you refering to is the one show in the PIC #2 up close that where the ribbon cable goes and connect the main Board to power supply ..? Also marked cn801 connector ..?

          I am not getting any Power on Pin #2 going to Main board according to the manual when i connect my AS power cord but i have 5v for the standby on pin #3 ,

          Manual show the SMPS is the main power and the main power consider the small power to complete the circuit

          here is what i am going by



          Last edited by R1racer; 11-12-2015, 10:40 AM.

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          • awyatt2
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            Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

            you also might want to test the 2 diodes that are heat sink mounted in a to220 case. they are prone to failure on these power supplies. I have replaced four of them and they were all sets with no surge protector.

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            • R1racer
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              Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

              Originally posted by awyatt2
              you also might want to test the 2 diodes that are heat sink mounted in a to220 case. they are prone to failure on these power supplies. I have replaced four of them and they were all sets with no surge protector.
              Which one specifically ... You want me to post up close pic of the SMPS if that help to point them out

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              • awyatt2
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                look at the component markings they are t0220 case mounted to a heatsink I don't remember the exact number following but they are marked with a d prefix . they are in an area with a few electrolytic caps I had to remove one to get the two diodes out, one is common anode and one common cathode. if they are bad I have a number for replacement they hold up fine as long as you insulate the tabs from the heatsink pad, I used silicone pads under mine. also possible you may have a bad startup cap as well. what I am reading is you are getting no power at all.

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                • awyatt2
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                  Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

                  here is a schematic of the power supply from my set they should be the same. maybe it will help to find problem. I don't have the main print and could not find one.
                  Attached Files

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                  • R1racer
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                    Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

                    Thank you for attachment ...



                    awyatt2 : After i got the set back from the shop it's totally dead i mean dead dead ..YES no power light led in the front panel


                    when i hock the ac power cord to the set i do not get power LED up front like it use 2 , I am reading 5v at the STB pin #3


                    If i recall it back when i was trouble shooting if you disconnect the main the set will behave the same manner . The SMPS need the Main board to complete the circuit..but i could be wrong


                    However after removing the spare yesterday and putting back my original main the set momentarily clicked ..Leads me to belive that i still might have main board issue along with what freakaftr8 mentioned

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                    • R1racer
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                      Removed SMPS and took a close look to all solider joint , non loose or cracked , now damaged caps or sign of burning component , placed back to it's place and connected main board then AC but nothing else to it . I header the SMPS relay momentary click but No stby light .

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                      • freakaftr8
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                        Re: Samsung PN50b550T2FXZA Dead

                        Originally posted by R1racer
                        Removed SMPS and took a close look to all solider joint , non loose or cracked , now damaged caps or sign of burning component , placed back to it's place and connected main board then AC but nothing else to it . I header the SMPS relay momentary click but No stby light .
                        Time to get out the voltmeter and start checking things. First of all what do you have in relation to 5 volts DC going to the standby pin on the main board. Do you still have 5 volts?
                        Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-12-2015, 06:21 PM.
                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                        • R1racer
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                          Ok i am seeing 5v Pin3 Stby at the Main board end where the Ribbon cable connect , So i have 5v Pin 3 at the SMPS >>> 5v Pin3 stby at main board . However Pin #2 (PS On ) is Zero

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                          • R1racer
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                            Bump ...No ideas

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                            • freakaftr8
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                              PS on will be low until the mainboard tells power supply to turn on then that number will go hi I believe on your model.
                              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                              • awyatt2
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                                look the main board over and see if the shop clipped any components to test maybe they missed resoldering some component in line. I have all parts for a pn50c450 except screen but I think they are different mains.

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                                • R1racer
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                                  The main board is part # BN96-12139A V1016.1 , I have one on it's way

                                  I think the Shop did something to make it go from bad to worse ..

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                                  • R1racer
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                                    Originally posted by freakaftr8
                                    PS on will be low until the mainboard tells power supply to turn on then that number will go hi I believe on your model.


                                    I agree 100% , In matter fact my initial trouble shooting according to the book to proof this theory was ,i disconnect every thing ( X main, logic, Y main , speakers ..Ect ) and only leave the Main and SMPS connected and see what happen . The TV use to work but obviously with no pic as the main was talking to the SMPS ..However after exactly 15 minute or 20 minute some times up to 45 minute this communication get lost and the SMPS shut's down to protect it self .. They only way i was able to bring it back to life is by disconnecting the main and reconnect .


                                    Now it got to the point where it's total black out so hopefully the MAIN am getting will bring it back to life
                                    Last edited by R1racer; 11-13-2015, 10:08 AM.

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                                    • awyatt2
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                                      where in nc are you? I have esr, scope, multimeters and can help with ps if you need to go further after you get the main board been thru 4 of these sets and have one myself they have a good pic when working properly.ight now we are watching a ln55 set I repaired my wife likes it better I like the plasma on fast scenes it dosent have the draggy motion like lcd's do. been told its my eyes but I see what I see.

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                                      • R1racer
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                                        Originally posted by awyatt2
                                        where in nc are you? I have esr, scope, multimeters and can help with ps if you need to go further after you get the main board been thru 4 of these sets and have one myself they have a good pic when working properly.ight now we are watching a ln55 set I repaired my wife likes it better I like the plasma on fast scenes it dosent have the draggy motion like lcd's do. been told its my eyes but I see what I see.


                                        I am locate at the Eastern part of NC , Morehead City NC to be specific . I really like the Plasma Display and i agree with you . I do not like the draggy motion either , It's not you or me it's the way they are ..Not crisp and clear like Plasma .. main board should arrive tomorrow , crossing my fingers

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