SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

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  • Locutor13
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 61
    • Canada

    #1

    SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

    The TV and keeps clicking on-off on power cycling, sometimes it does the whole power cycle and I can see backlight turning on before it turns back off but most of the times it stop before the red led blinks for 3 times. When it finally randomly turns-on (after several power cycles) the TV works fine.

    So far I have verified that all the electrolytic caps on the PSU are ok and that there is no apparent bad solder joints. Also I was able to update the firmware but it made no difference.

    I was wondering if this may be caused by a bad tantalum SMD caps on the main board as happen with other TV (LCDs or Plasma) that were manufactured in year 2008.

    Any help will be highly appreciated since right now I have no idea what to do next.

    I am attaching pictures and specs diagrams of the PSU.
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

    Like the cap C102 in the LN5xx series:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...t=25810&page=7
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...LN46A500T1FXZA
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Locutor13
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 61
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

      Thanks Budm,The main board the LNxxA750 is a little different from the series A5xx, but it still has what it looks like tantalum SMD caps that might be causing the problem.
      Unfortunately the specs diagrams for the main board I got from elektrotanya are too big to be uploaded and I am not sure how to determine if this is the problem. Any ideas? Thanks.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

        Did you try heating those suspect caps with hair dryer to see if the TV will function normally?
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Locutor13
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 61
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

          I tried the hair dryer and it didn't make a difference so I went back to the PSU and found that when I plug-in the TV to wall after it clicks the STB voltage is only of 2.6V instead of 5.1V and when it turns-off it goes to 0 volts and then back to 2.6V in cycles.

          My guess is that when it turns-on the STB goes to the 5.1V but I would have to leave it to rest for a while to get it turn-on back again and verified that reading.

          I tried the hair dryer also with the caps of the STB circuit and made no difference.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

            STB5.1v PIN 3 of the connector CN801 goes down to 2.6V?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Locutor13
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 61
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

              On PIN 3 of connector CN801 I am getting only 2.6V or 0V. Never 5.1V

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              • Terryfictv
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 124
                • USA

                #8
                Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

                For a test, unplug all the connectors on the power board
                except the ac in and ground wire....plugin and recheck standby
                voltage....change ?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

                  Originally posted by Locutor13
                  On PIN 3 of connector CN801 I am getting only 2.6V or 0V. Never 5.1V
                  Are you sure you are measuring pin 3 sinc epin 3 is the always on stndby power supply, for it to go to 0V means it went dead. May be you are on PS-ON pin.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Locutor13
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 61
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

                    Sorry, I got confused with the CN801 connector's labels on the power supply so I followed the labels in the main board where every pin is individually described and found the following:
                    I get a steady 5.1 STB V while the TV is power cycling or when it is in STB mode.
                    On the pins where I should get 13V when the TV won't turn-on it I get a max of 2.6V if the TV turns-on then I get 12V.
                    SW-PWR: I get a max 4.3V.

                    Also I took the voltages of the connector CNI 803 and found the following voltages while the TV was power cycling (not turned-on):
                    DET_5V= It goes from 0 to 5.1V
                    PWM=0.0 or 0.1
                    ON/Off=0.0 or 0.1V

                    Might a problem with the PSU?

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                    • Locutor13
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 61
                      • Canada

                      #11
                      Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

                      I tested the PSU as shown on the shopjimmy’s video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54IurMvr6o and I got the backlight right away and all the voltages.

                      So I am going back to troubleshoot the main board and I’ll start testing the tantalum caps. I have found one that looks like it is somehow the equivalent of the C102 47UF 10V of the main boards of the Samsungs A5XX, it is label as C132 33UF 10V. I am planning to take it out of circuit and test it.

                      Can a 33UF cap be replaced with a 44UF tantalum cap?

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                      • Locutor13
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 61
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

                        The 33UF tested ok but I found another possible cause of the problem, the connector of cable CN801 that connects the power supply to the main has 3 burnt female pins jackets (see picture).

                        This is a 24 2X12 double pin cable and the burnt pins are the ones that conduct the 12v which I don' get when the TV won't turn-on.

                        Where and how I can find a replacement for this cable?
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                        • Locutor13
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 61
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: SAMSUNG LCD LN52A750 POWERS ON & OFF MAIN BOAD or PSU??

                          Since I was unable to find a replacement cable; I cleaned the male connectors of the main and the PSU boards and the female connectors on both sides of the cable with a ``contact and head cleaner`` and turned the cable around. I connected the burnt side of the cable to the main board and the other side to PSU and got the problem solved.

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