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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #21
    Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

    It looks like one of the voltages on the Y-main is bad. You should avoid running it for too long or the buffers could go bad. Disconnect the buffers then proceed to check the Vsc, Vsch and Vset voltages.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • tw2005
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2011
      • 6458
      • Australia

      #22
      Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

      Not saying this is the case here but have you messed with any trimpot adjustments on any of the boards?

      Here's an example of what happens if they are way out on an old LG I got after someone had touched it. before and after

      Nothing replaced, but all Ysus pots had been messed with .



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      • smiddy1980
        HELLLLLP
        • Sep 2014
        • 57
        • Scotland

        #23
        Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

        I am getting the correct voltage from the power board but I am sure Tom is right with the other voltage on the yboard on some of the pins I am getting -88 v and I think it should be between 90 and 120 what could be causing the -89 and idea ?

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        • tw2005
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2011
          • 6458
          • Australia

          #24
          Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

          I put the doc here to make it easy for anyone to refer to since this is what you're using.

          I've never tried any of this and had no dramas with mine, I had simple replacement of 88N30W fets only + buffer
          Attached Files

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          • smiddy1980
            HELLLLLP
            • Sep 2014
            • 57
            • Scotland

            #25
            Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

            Thanks TW2005 my voltages are no where like in the doc, I don't get any voltage out of pin 13 and the other pin are all around -88, I have replace c5709, c5300,c5715, Q5302,Q5303,Q5304,Q5306,Q5500,Q5501 ZD5502, it may be my bad soldering, could my bad soldering cause this strange voltage?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #26
              Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

              What point are you using as your meter ground? (black lead)
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • smiddy1980
                HELLLLLP
                • Sep 2014
                • 57
                • Scotland

                #27
                Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                yes, on top of heatsync and red lead to test pins

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                • smiddy1980
                  HELLLLLP
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 57
                  • Scotland

                  #28
                  Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                  here are my readings pin 25 -88v, 23 -86v, 21 -85v, 19 -88v, 17 -89v 15 -88v, 13 0v

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                  • smiddy1980
                    HELLLLLP
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 57
                    • Scotland

                    #29
                    Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                    just tested the vscan voltage and getting -189 this is lower that the 208 at the top of the board, think this is where the problem lies ?

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                    • tw2005
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 6458
                      • Australia

                      #30
                      Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                      Post a pic of the label on the back of panel

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                      • smiddy1980
                        HELLLLLP
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 57
                        • Scotland

                        #31
                        Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                        Pic of the post on the yboard
                        Attached Files

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                        • tw2005
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 6458
                          • Australia

                          #32
                          Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                          Originally posted by smiddy1980
                          Pic of the post on the yboard
                          Right, so have a look at the sticker and did you see the -190Vsc?

                          that is Vscan and that is what you need to reference your -189V to

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                          • smiddy1980
                            HELLLLLP
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 57
                            • Scotland

                            #33
                            Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                            so I need to move the Vsan pot to I get -190v?

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                            • tw2005
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 6458
                              • Australia

                              #34
                              Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                              Originally posted by smiddy1980
                              so I need to move the Vsan pot to I get -190v?
                              At this point don't touch a thing yet. If you have a fine tip permanent marker, grab it as I'm just looking at the pots and we'll need to mark it's current location prior to moving them. That's on the Ymain.
                              I have serious concerns with the B20NK50Z smd fet. what wattage iron have you got?

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                              • smiddy1980
                                HELLLLLP
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 57
                                • Scotland

                                #35
                                Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                                not sure on the wattage, you think I may have damaged it ?

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                                • tw2005
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2011
                                  • 6458
                                  • Australia

                                  #36
                                  Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                                  On the ymain

                                  leave Yset alone

                                  Yfr long, marke the arrow pointer and then mark a rference point for it on the board or pot housing to come back to if need be.

                                  Then adjust to match this photo. I'm still checking more of the board, start with this.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • tw2005
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Oct 2011
                                    • 6458
                                    • Australia

                                    #37
                                    Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                                    Originally posted by smiddy1980
                                    not sure on the wattage, you think I may have damaged it ?
                                    I'm worried it's not soldered well and could be dry joint. What brand and model iron then if you don't know. Either way looks like it needed more heat

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                                    • tw2005
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Oct 2011
                                      • 6458
                                      • Australia

                                      #38
                                      Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                                      The last pot VR5800, leave.

                                      Try that and fire the TV up and see if we got lucky

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                                      • smiddy1980
                                        HELLLLLP
                                        • Sep 2014
                                        • 57
                                        • Scotland

                                        #39
                                        Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                                        no still the same, didn't look like it mad any difference

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                                        • tw2005
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Oct 2011
                                          • 6458
                                          • Australia

                                          #40
                                          Re: Ps-50q96hd That went pop

                                          Originally posted by smiddy1980
                                          no still the same, didn't look like it mad any difference
                                          well the fact no change at all suggests part of the ymain is not right. that was a fair way out.

                                          I don't know, I can't see all your repairs, get a meter and confirm the smd fet is actually making connection on the heatsinkded body to pcb where it's soldered.

                                          There's no schematics for these, that's why I love the panasonic gear, youget full diagrams.

                                          Hopefully a Samsung guru will pop their head up, I really don't know.

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