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  • soler88
    New Member
    • Sep 2022
    • 9
    • Canada

    #1

    Samsung UN46H5203 backlight issue - stumped

    I am trying to fix this tv that has image and sound but no backlight. Replaced all led strips and each strip turns on using a led tester but do not get any backlight when the tv turns on.
    I disconnected the main board from the PS but still no backlight.

    Looking at previous threads, nothing is jumping out at me and I'm stumped.

    Here are the voltage measurements:
    ON STATE

    CNM803 on PSU from Main

    Pin 1 A13v - 13.09v

    Pin 2 OD_UD - 3.3v

    Pin 3 A13v - 13.09v

    Pin 4 BLU_PWM - 1.6v

    Pin 5 A13v - 13.09v

    Pin 6 PWR_On/Off - 3.3v

    Pin 7 A13v - 13.09v

    Pin 8 GND - 0v

    Pin 9 GND - 0v

    Pin 10 GND - 0v


    STANDBY STATE

    CNM803 on PSU from Main

    Pin 1 A13v - 13.09v

    Pin 2 OD_UD - 0v

    Pin 3 A13v - 12v

    Pin 4 BLU_PWM - 0v

    Pin 5 A13v - 12v

    Pin 6 PWR_On/Off - 0.13v

    Pin 7 A13v - 12v

    Pin 8 GND - 0v

    Pin 9 GND - 0v

    Pin 10 GND - 0v


    CNL802 CONNECTOR ON PSU TO LED's

    ON STATE

    Pin 1 D1+ - 256.9v

    Pin 2 D1+ - 256.9v

    Pin 3 S1- - 202.9v

    Pin 4 S2+ - 202.8v

    Pin 5 NC - 0v

    Pin 6 S2- - 176.1v

    Pin 7 S3+ - 176.1v

    Pin 8 D1- - 256.4v

    Pin 9 D1- - 256.4v


    STANDBY STATE

    Pin 1 D1+ - 207.5v

    Pin 2 D1+ - 207.5v

    Pin 3 S1- - 153.9v

    Pin 4 S2+ - 153.9v

    Pin 5 NC - 0v

    Pin 6 S2- - 127.5v

    Pin 7 S3+ - 127.6v

    Pin 8 D1- - 207.8v

    Pin 9 D1- - 207.8v​


    I get the following voltages with the led tester on the connector:
    D+
    S1- = 59.8v

    S2+
    S2- = 29.8v

    S3+
    D- = 29.8 v

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading!
  • Answer selected by soler88 at 10-17-2024, 02:44 PM.
    soler88
    New Member
    • Sep 2022
    • 9
    • Canada

    Fixed!

    The diode (SF28) near the the backlight connector was bad. When I measured in diode mode, it was correct 0.49v one way but not OL when reversing the probes.

    Upon closer inspection, the pcb around it was darker due to heat I presume.

    Hopefully this helps someone fix theirs.
    Attached Files

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    • EazyBone
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jun 2023
      • 1314
      • United states

      #2
      Either the LEDs or PSU or connection to PSU likely. Take a good photo of power boards and then 2 additional zoomed in closer to the board.
      ​​​​​​
      Also disconnect the main board from PSU connector and plug in the power board. See if LEDs come on

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      • soler88
        New Member
        • Sep 2022
        • 9
        • Canada

        #3
        EazyBone Thanks for the reply. Yes I tried disconnecting the main board from the PSU and the LEDs do not come on.

        Here are some pics. Let me know if you need more zoomed in ones.

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        • soler88
          New Member
          • Sep 2022
          • 9
          • Canada

          #4

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          • Diah
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2013
            • 6357
            • Germany

            #5
            yours measurement on BL socket make no sense...
            you need direct on D1- & D1+ same to S2 channel don't use the chassis as references

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            • lotas
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2016
              • 4554
              • Russia

              #6
              How do you measure the voltage at the output of the leds, relative to ground or something?
              It is necessary to measure between D+ and D-.
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              • soler88
                New Member
                • Sep 2022
                • 9
                • Canada

                #7
                Yes, I measured relative to chassis ground.

                On those points like you indicated, I am getting 0.54v.

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                • Davi.p
                  Hobbist Tech
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4297
                  • Italy - Milan

                  #8
                  I think you must re check values, A13v in standby might be 8v, it confirmed , psb bad.. besides this if before power all things up the first time, you have tested B.L. with the tester the way you told my guess you have damaged the bars, D1+/- are the only pins to the leds, instead S1/3 are a series of sensors, if them are now damaged by the bad input , the driver is hang

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                  • soler88
                    New Member
                    • Sep 2022
                    • 9
                    • Canada

                    #9
                    Fixed!

                    The diode (SF28) near the the backlight connector was bad. When I measured in diode mode, it was correct 0.49v one way but not OL when reversing the probes.

                    Upon closer inspection, the pcb around it was darker due to heat I presume.

                    Hopefully this helps someone fix theirs.
                    Attached Files

                    Comment

                    • EazyBone
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2023
                      • 1314
                      • United states

                      #10
                      Good find! I got a board in stumped on also and I can't find the culprit.. I'll recheck these myself

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