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  • freakaftr8
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    • Oct 2012
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    #21
    Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

    I wish.. looked through my stock. Nothing even close
    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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    • Hombre
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      • Jul 2013
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      • Croatia

      #22
      Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

      Try on UTsource.net maybe they can find it

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      • freakaftr8
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        #23
        Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

        Went ahead and ordered the board. For 30 dollars it's worth a shot. I'm going to hack this one and see.what the results are.

        Tried UTsource with no results.
        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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        • freakaftr8
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          #24
          Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

          okay here's the outcome got the new buffer board in today had the same lines in the screen and then the screen went dead imediately. Factory defect. There's something behind the anti rubbing tape that they put on the side of the frame this has caused a rupture in the Y ribbon cable that goes into the panel. As it has broken two fine wire fragments that run those horizontal lines.

          If these buffers do not address every single line on the screen it will blow the IC immediately. The IC needs to address every single line at the same time. This is the first I've ever seen with and IC shorting if it doesn't address all horizontal lines!

          I am taking the screen out of the frame and I am going to attempt to repair the ribbon cable and replace the IC on the board. Wish me luck!
          http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc72da4a4.jpg

          P.s. look at the black felt tape right above the arrow in the frame. That's the affected area that has severed the connection in the ribbon.
          Last edited by freakaftr8; 01-10-2014, 03:21 PM.
          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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          • freakaftr8
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            #25
            Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

            And the bad spot in the cable. Frame removed.

            http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps590bb918.jpg
            Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
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              #26
              Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

              Hmm, any chance of repairing that? Looks like a design error to me..
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              • freakaftr8
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                #27
                Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                un believable! You know what happened? They make these TVs with the frames so damn thin now that the plastic finger that holds the plastic frame to the metal frame surround that houses the panel has worn into the ribbon!! There's literally no space between!
                http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps515e5da6.jpg
                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                • tom66
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                  #28
                  Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                  If you moved the ribbon could you fix this?
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                  • freakaftr8
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                    #29
                    Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                    No, I moved the ribbon a bit and it did not come back. I am going to carefully take some emery cloth and rub the lamination away from the copper conductors and gently reflow the area, I have spent some time practicing with a junk panel and recreated the issue with success
                    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                    • freakaftr8
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                      #30
                      Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                      I repaired the buffer board to the best of my knowledge I haven't tried it yet the pins on the IC's incredibly close together more so than any other 1080 P panel that I've seen your must be 130 pins to this IC. Unbelievable!

                      http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps02a069db.jpg
                      Last edited by freakaftr8; 01-11-2014, 04:31 PM.
                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                      • tom66
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                        #31
                        Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                        How many buffer chips for the panel? Typically it was 90 outputs per chip (100 or 128 pins, for the control signals and Vsc/Vfo) meaning 12 chips for 1080p panel.
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                        • freakaftr8
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                          #32
                          Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                          12 buffer ic's for the panel. 6 per buffer
                          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                          • tom66
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                            #33
                            Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                            That's the same as most ones then, but check out LG's original 71" semi-prototype 1080p using IPMs, PDP71H2. 36 buffer chips total!! This is just one board. The TV retailed for about $12,000 because it was the biggest full HD plasma available at the time, almost the 1st full HD plasma too.
                            http://assets.shopjimmy.com/media/ca...br30771401.jpg
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                            • freakaftr8
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                              #34
                              Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                              Whoa! That's insane You probably need your own power plant just to run that beast.
                              Last edited by freakaftr8; 01-11-2014, 07:18 PM.
                              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                              • tom66
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                                #35
                                Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                                900W rated, 1kW peak possible, powered by two 50" PDP50X1 (WXGA) PSUs.
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                                • freakaftr8
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                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                                  I tried to fix that cracked ribbon cable and with no success so I went ahead and heated the ribbon cable up and removed it from the screen and cleaned the contact points so now I am going to try some 3m 9703 elecrical contact tape and attempt to find a replacement ribbon cable and Adhere it to the screen. what do you guys think about that? I notice there somebody else here on the forums trying to repair a samsung lcd tv with a similar issue. I think it would work it works for iPods and my BMW instrument cluster. But I also know that there's quite a bit of voltage going through a Y sustain ribbon cable.
                                  Last edited by freakaftr8; 01-14-2014, 10:10 PM.
                                  Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                  • TechGizmo
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                                    • Dec 2014
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                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                                    Originally posted by freakaftr8
                                    I tried to fix that cracked ribbon cable and with no success so I went ahead and heated the ribbon cable up and removed it from the screen and cleaned the contact points so now I am going to try some 3m 9703 elecrical contact tape and attempt to find a replacement ribbon cable and Adhere it to the screen. what do you guys think about that? I notice there somebody else here on the forums trying to repair a samsung lcd tv with a similar issue. I think it would work it works for iPods and my BMW instrument cluster. But I also know that there's quite a bit of voltage going through a Y sustain ribbon cable.
                                    Just wondering if you ever did get this TV fixed, I have the exact same problem, on of the Buffer CHip is shorted the very top one and I looked at the ribbon cable it is broken right where it was making contact with the frame.
                                    Thanks
                                    Terry

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                                    • freakaftr8
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                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                                      No unfortunately I put it on the back burner still sitting I eventually I have the 9703 adhesive tape but I'm still trying to find a replacement ribbon cable for it.

                                      What a sadly overlooked design to destroy such a nice panel.
                                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                      • TechGizmo
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                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                                        Originally posted by freakaftr8
                                        No unfortunately I put it on the back burner still sitting I eventually I have the 9703 adhesive tape but I'm still trying to find a replacement ribbon cable for it.

                                        What a sadly overlooked design to destroy such a nice panel.
                                        Agree, poor design and a shame there are lots of this model out there with this problem. I am thinking about, resoldering the broken copper traces on the ribbon cable. I have a stereo inspection microscope that I can put it under to do the repair.

                                        Just so time consuming and the customer wants the set back yesterday.

                                        Thanks for the detailed explanation and the pictures it was very helpful.

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                                        • TechGizmo
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                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 50PA5500 stripped...

                                          Update, I was successful repairing a similar model 60PA6500-UA that had the exact same problem, second ribbon cable from the top was broken, I used very thin strands of wire and jumped the 9 broken traces on the cable.

                                          Also replaced the Buffer I.C second from top that corresponded to the broken ribbon cable.

                                          So it is doable, took me about 6 hours of work to get it done. The front protective glass has to be removed to access the cable.
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