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  • zdsh07p9
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 155
    • United States

    #1

    HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

    I have a HP PL4260N that a friend wanted me to repair, got it back from Coppell and adjusted VS and Va to 186 and 60 V, respectfully. Then adjusted the both the VSC and -Vy accordingly as well. I know I dont have set_up and Set_down adjusted correctly but ive noticed that all different settings of those two options do not get rid of these red dots. Please help, thank you
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

    If you friend owned the TV before it is faulty, then he would have noticed these dots, very common on LG panels.

    Capkid offers a $22.50 service (+your postage cost) to fix this:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29263

    which is pretty reasonable given the programming jig from LG is around $150!
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • zdsh07p9
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 155
      • United States

      #3
      Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

      So this is a fix for this tv if there are only red dots? that are constant even if the pots are adjusted? I can adjust them so that they almost go away but not fully, still a good amount of specks on the screen, I dont think they flash either

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

        They are completely static or flashing randomly? They can flash in places where there was a previous image and some pixels may flash more than others.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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        • cinemax111
          New Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 1
          • USA

          #5
          Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

          Capkid offers a $22.50 service (+your postage cost) to fix this:
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29263

          I have tried to look at the thread involving Capkid and the above service. However, I get message saying I probably do not have privileges. I would like to find out how to contact him and what is needed for the repair.

          Thank you

          The HP PL4260N tv I have has gotten worse with the red dots over the years. I am currently waiting on parts to repair the YSUS (Y Sustain Board) and assuming that works, I have read that after repairs the dots have gotten worse. I have had this tv for years and hoping this is something that can be fixed relatively cheap (and hoping it isn't the Plasma panel itself.)

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          • Alastair E
            Chief Womble
            • Mar 2013
            • 1963
            • U.K.

            #6
            Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

            The firmware update of the control-board usually fixes the red-dots/green-dots completely....

            Capkid's your guy as you're in the USA. I have the same kit, but based in UK....
            TELEFIX

            How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
            http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
            PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

              Originally posted by cinemax111
              Capkid offers a $22.50 service (+your postage cost) to fix this:
              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29263

              I have tried to look at the thread involving Capkid and the above service. However, I get message saying I probably do not have privileges. I would like to find out how to contact him and what is needed for the repair.
              I think you need to have a few posts on the forum before it'll let you send PMs. However, if you still have problems, let me know and I can contact him on your behalf.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • capkid
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 1339
                • United States

                #8
                Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                cinemax111, I haven't been on the forum much lately, but I was alerted to your issue by Alastair E. Let me know if and when you need your board flashed. I've subscribed to this thread.
                Last edited by capkid; 02-23-2014, 01:24 PM.
                LG Plasma Mal-Discharge Correction Service

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                • wirelicker
                  Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 12
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                  CapKid.

                  I also have a HP PL4260N that's been garaged since it was 2 yrs old, apparently due to the same problem, and am hopeful I could enlist your help to get it usable. It sounds like it's the same problem that you've been fixing. Lots of pink/red sparkling, images are terrible, lack brightness and richness, and generally jacked up.

                  Could you let me know what other symptoms to look for, and if it's something you believe you can fix?

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                    The red/green dots fault is generally a "watchable" TV but in darker areas, and trailing bright movements, red/green dots can follow objects.
                    Your fault sounds more like a Z-sustain fault
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                    • wirelicker
                      Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 12
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                      Tom,

                      Thanks for your reply. I've attached a pic. I tried to include the cloned imaged (google home page) on both the laptop and tv. As you can see, the camera seems to have adjusted it, because you can't see anything on the laptop. Just wanted to clarify, there is a huge difference between what it should be (like the laptop) and what it is.

                      Does this confirm your diagnosis?
                      Attached Files

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                      • Alastair E
                        Chief Womble
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1963
                        • U.K.

                        #12
                        Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                        Wirelicker--

                        I think there's summit else going on in your set, Check all the various voltages on Y-SUS and dont forget the V-Zbias on the Z-SUS...

                        Post them here, maybe one of those is off causing the issue.

                        Is the picture really dark as well?--difficult to see in that picture....

                        A picture of the chassis and the boards would help identify exactly what model PDP too....
                        TELEFIX

                        How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                        http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                        PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                        • wirelicker
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 12
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                          Voltages coming in are good.

                          Vs 188. Va 66.

                          Attached a pic of the ZSUS.
                          Last edited by wirelicker; 03-20-2014, 05:40 PM. Reason: wrong pic

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                          • wirelicker
                            Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 12
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                            zbias is 2.6 - 2.7

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                            • wirelicker
                              Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 12
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                              Here's what I got, tested Zbias and others at the white connector in photo...

                              1. OE 0

                              2. Zbias 2.7

                              3 Sus_dn 0

                              4 Sus_Up .26

                              5. ER_dn 0.082

                              6. ER_Up .31
                              Attached Files

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                                Vzbias should be checked at the point near the orange ribbon connectors.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                • wirelicker
                                  Member
                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 12
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                                  Let me try that again. Next to the ribbon there is an arrow printed on the board labeled zbias which points to an n-channel mosfet (fqb 27n25 g36). It registered.

                                  G: 7.3

                                  D: .047

                                  S: .138

                                  Another thing I noticed, the heatsink wasn't getting warm on the zsus.

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                                  • Alastair E
                                    Chief Womble
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 1963
                                    • U.K.

                                    #18
                                    Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                                    Looks like the VZbias supply is missing....

                                    Its generated on that small sub-board by the side of the MOSFET. Check for the resistance to chassis from the VZbias test-point, (Tab of that mosfet)--maybe there's a short on that line somewhere....
                                    TELEFIX

                                    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                    • wirelicker
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2014
                                      • 12
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                                      No resistance when powered on.

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                                      • wirelicker
                                        Member
                                        • Mar 2014
                                        • 12
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: HP PL4260N - Red Dots after YSUS repair - do not disappear after warm

                                        I found a bad fuse on the Zsus. Replaced it, and now the tv won't stay on. It acts like a throws a breaker a second after coming on. When I put the bad fuse back in, it powers up, and I get the same purple/pink and muted screen. The fuse I got to replace it matches spec, (4a, 250v, slow) but is glass instead of ceramic. Since the tv has 5 of the same fuse in different places, I juggled them and tested again, same result.

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