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  • ohmmy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 182
    • USA

    #21
    Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

    Originally posted by freakaftr8
    C38 replaced. rhere is a transistor to the bottom left of hs2 (heat sync) 2. That is q6. Immediate stop in hiss when I freeze it. Its a 2n2222 im looking for a replacement. I took a pic of the bottom of the power supply. Ill post asap
    If freeze spraying that transistor cures the issue then that's definitely bad. When you freeze spray it, does it immediately evaporite over the transistor? If so that usually indicates a faulty part. Generally a hissing transformer means there's a short somewhere and it could very well be that transistor.
    Last edited by ohmmy; 09-17-2013, 10:10 PM.

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    • freakaftr8
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2012
      • 3743
      • USA

      #22
      Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

      No it doesn't immediately evaporateover the transistor but the hissing stops as soon as I spray it.
      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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      • ohmmy
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 182
        • USA

        #23
        Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

        Originally posted by freakaftr8
        No it doesn't immediately evaporateover the transistor but the hissing stops as soon as I spray it.
        Test it. Also check for cold solder joints through out the board.

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        • freakaftr8
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2012
          • 3743
          • USA

          #24
          Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

          Funny. 2n2222 is an old motorola npn switching transistor from the 1970s. Old design. All my subs are newer. Darn. I get like 5.4mohm ambient. 5.6mohm frozen.
          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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          • ohmmy
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 182
            • USA

            #25
            Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

            Have you noticed any cold/cracked solder joints anywhere? The freeze could be providing a temporary connection if there are some.

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            • ohmmy
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 182
              • USA

              #26
              Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

              Also, have you replaced the electrolytic cap c38 or the other ceramic c38 to the right of it? Try spraying that one see what happens.

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              • freakaftr8
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2012
                • 3743
                • USA

                #27
                Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                Yes both caps changed. As a matter of fact I went ahead and changed all the caps on the hot side except for the main filter cap
                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                  I will have to see the bottom side so I can trace out the connections to see how the circuits are setup.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • freakaftr8
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3743
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                    Well I threw in the towel. Put a fan on the power supply and its been running all night long. Think the transformer itself is bad. Sorry I couldn't post pics. I was trying to fix thisTV for the least amount possible because it's going to a friend that doesn't have a TV for her family I'm giving it to her
                    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                    • freakaftr8
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3743
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                      I started a new post on another TV I just picked up.
                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                      • freakaftr8
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3743
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                        Well even with the fan. Bad idea for long term. I know its still shutting down. Any ideas?
                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                        • selldoor
                          Slow Learner
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7870

                          #32
                          Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                          Yes - post the pictures you keep promising!
                          They need to be good and clear - well lit no flash
                          close ups of the area you spary and it fixes it might help.
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                          • freakaftr8
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 3743
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                            Originally posted by selldoor
                            Yes - post the pictures you keep promising!
                            They need to be good and clear - well lit no flash
                            close ups of the area you spary and it fixes it might help.
                            I will take some more pictures when the TV is in my possession.
                            Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                            • Gary Jerome
                              New Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2
                              • usa

                              #34
                              Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                              what are the pin designation for the element elcfw327 power supply

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: element 32 inch lcd shuts off after 15 min

                                @gary, so far we do not see any pictures of the boards so we cannot tell which version of this TV is. There are more than one version of this model.
                                http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...ement+elcfw327
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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