Panasonic TC-50PU54 8 blinks picture flashes then dead

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  • aasnowskate
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    Easy guy, we are all on the same team here. I did plug it in with the sc50 jumped and still got 8 blinks. Sorry I was not clear about it.

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  • tw2005
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    Tom, I have a slight suspicion with my incomplete instructions, he may not have turned the TV on for the test.,The procedure is in the 2012 guide, hope he found it.

    I hope I'm wrong and he did turn it on and it powered up normally.

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  • tw2005
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    post 1, Initially 8 blinks, ss disconnected, no blinks Chart says, SS11 SS33 disconnect, The TV Stays on With Black Screen suggests no blinks

    post 20, SC20 disconnected, 8 blinks charts says , SC20 disconnected, 8 Blinks

    post 28 SU/SD tested normal as per manual What did you do here, mearurement results?

    post 43 SU/SD isolation,SC50 test, OK (no blinks??) normal start, no picture,no blinks?

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  • tw2005
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    What! You disconnected the buffers from the SC, removed the earth screws, shorted SC50 and started normally with no blinks?

    That's totally unexpected for me anyway. Bad buffers should be 7 blinks.

    Maybe we should resistance test the buffer boards and see if we can prove anything wrong with them.

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  • tom66
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    As in, still 8 blinks?

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  • aasnowskate
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    I did the buffer isolation and jumped the sc50 pins. It tested good.

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  • tw2005
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    If your concerned about the buffer boards you can take them out of the equation doing the buffer isolation and jumping the 2 pins on the SC50. I would not expect the SU/SD to give 8 blink though.

    There's not a lot on those c boards, I have had one with a bad 20 pin octal buffer IC.

    It had very high resistance pins 20(Vcc) - pin10(gnd) markings C541 and also VHCT541 which was the one I had bad and the larger profile of the 2.

    Looks like these only have the C541.

    I measured it board out but in cct comparing to another good C board pretty much all the same, but you could try installed but I'd disconnect any power leads, ribbons but leave the panel connectors alone. I think 1-2mohms, bad one was about 4 times that.

    From what I can tell UT50 has same panel boards.
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  • aasnowskate
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    I know. I appreciate all your time. Unless I order the C3 and SU/SD boards there is not much else I can do.

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  • tom66
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    Seems like there is no short there.
    8 blink panel failure is only caused by:
    - Shorted 3.3V/Vda on C board
    - Open SS FFC

    Neither of which you have determined to be bad.

    I really doubt it is the panel but I don't know what else to suggest, it is very hard to check these things without having a scope.

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  • aasnowskate
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    Thanks, I have 58 VDC when the tv starts up and it drops to 39 VDC when it goes into shutdown. That is on the C3 board

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  • tom66
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    Do you see the little green SMD resistors? Vda can be tested on either end of those.

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  • aasnowskate
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    I have 3.3 v on all three C boards when the Tv comes on and then they all go to 0v when it goes into shutdown and starts the 8 flashes. Where is the Vda?

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  • tw2005
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    slide for what it's worth
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  • tom66
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    Check the +3.3V and Vda on it. Vda should be around 55V.

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  • aasnowskate
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    According to the manual, the C3 board could also cause an 8 blink. It doesn't really say how to troubleshoot that board though.

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  • aasnowskate
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    No, I don't have a scope.

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  • tom66
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    You don't have a scope?

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  • aasnowskate
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    The pic flashes on for less than a second and then goes into 8 flash mode. I didn't think a surge could cause a panel to go bad either, but I'm out of answers. I am still open to suggestions though.

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  • tom66
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    I really doubt a power surge can kill a panel. Bad electrode structure, due to dirt or debris, or broken ffc maybe, but not a power surge.

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  • tw2005
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    How long does the panel light up for? Is it a normal display or is it simply a quick flash and shutdown?

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