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  • splitcrete
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    • Dec 2012
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    #21
    Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

    Are the chassis pictures ok Tom ?

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    • splitcrete
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      #22
      Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

      I thought a buck converter was like 90-95 % efficient . Where is all that heat coming from? Could it be a bad winding in the housing of the inductor ? the other buck converter run about 50 deg. cooler .

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #23
        Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

        Around 85% is possible, 90% is really good, 95% not really possible except with very good converters.

        If the processor draws around 10W which is typical with modern video processors then you'd be losing around 1.5W which produces a fair bit of heat in the inductor and MOSFET, especially with no heatsink.

        Have you tried freeze-spraying parts to make it go wrong quicker (or see if that makes it work?) Or hairdryer to heat stuff up?
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        • splitcrete
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          • Dec 2012
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          #24
          Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

          I used a hair dryer last night and it trips at about 200 deg. and the power goes off. sprayed freeze spray on it and it started up by it self

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          • tom66
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            • Apr 2011
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            #25
            Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

            Can you try the heatsinked processor instead? It is possible the inductor has an intermittent contact, but unlikely. Try measuring voltage on both ends when set not working.
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            • splitcrete
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              • Dec 2012
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              #26
              Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

              I know it was 200 because I used my laser thermometer to check.
              The volts were .0 on both sides in standby mode.
              Last edited by splitcrete; 07-14-2013, 11:27 AM. Reason: new answer

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              • splitcrete
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                #27
                Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                .0 volts both sides

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                • splitcrete
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                  #28
                  Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                  How about if I swap out the inductor,and if its gets the same conditions I can swap it back. just to prove that its not a bad inductor ?

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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
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                    #29
                    Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                    You can do that, but I'm not sure what the ratings of that inductor will be.
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                    • splitcrete
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                      #30
                      Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                      I have one same rating from from a different make board. The set is running well with my little fan running. Think I'll leave the fan in when I find the problem. So many of these lcd samsungs are having the same issues. The strange thing my relay never did the clicking thing, even before I changed the caps.
                      Are the pictures ok?

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                        Your pictures are fine,
                        You will quickly learn from this forum that Samsung TVs are poorly built. And ideally, they are to be avoided in future purchases.
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                        • splitcrete
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                          #32
                          Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                          I grab what I can get, people want crazy money for non working tvs.
                          The most I will pay is a dollar an inch.

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
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                            #33
                            Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                            Around here I pay £1/inch typically so around $1.60/inch.
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                            • splitcrete
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                              #34
                              Re: Samsung LN46A650A1FXZA

                              Tomorrow its going to be 95 deg. turn off a.c. and run it with the cover on so it can build up heat in the cabinet. If it doesn't turn off I am going to leave my little fan in and running. If it turns off I will be back. Thank You for the support on my little project.

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