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  • woaimi
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 94
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    #1

    Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

    I initially created thread about this tv set with nothing on when plug in. It was diagnosed, with all the helps from this forum, to have a bad power supply. It has been collecting dusk until I found a PS to replace.
    Now I have the set power on with red indicator as it plugs in and turns green as the ON button is pressed, but nothing on the screen at all. I checked the all PS output connectors and they all seem to have the correct voltages, except the Power_On is 4.5V instead of 5V like the board's legends suggested. I can hear the noise from the speakers but that's about it. All smd fuses on the inverter board tested good but I have not check to see if any voltage present at the inverter board, will do that later tonight.
    Where do I go from here? any suggestion? thank you all very much. I will post some photos later as well.
  • Clydeuk
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 193

    #2
    Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

    Check for voltage at the inverter, should be 24v supply (at the fuse you mentioned). If that's present check the BL-ON signal to the inverter. If that's there chances are you have an inverter fault. Do you get any light at switch-on from the backlights?

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    • woaimi
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2005
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      #3
      Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

      thank you for the inputs! I'll be sure to check that when I get home. As for the screen, no light what so ever. I tried the flashlight method too but see nothing.

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      • Clydeuk
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 193

        #4
        Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

        You should have 24v supply, 3+ volt at BLON or whatever they call it on this. It's pointing to an inverter fault though not sure why you don't see anything on screen when you light it externally. It can be very hard to see though, I find having a menu on or analogue snow makes it easier, of course assuming the tv doesn't blank the display on no signal.

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        • woaimi
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 94
          • US

          #5
          Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

          I checked the fuses on the inverter board and they were all registered 24v on both ends of the fuses. The Bl_on is 3.2v when the set is off, and 0v when press ON. Also the standby voltage ON/OFF is 4.5v when off and change to 0v when power on.
          Does that mean the inverter board is gone?

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          • woaimi
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 94
            • US

            #6
            Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

            any suggestion? looks like I have one of those rare brand to work with, couldn't find much information about it.

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            • woaimi
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 94
              • US

              #7
              Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

              whew!!! I finally able to get some work done for the tv set.
              I took the whole thing apart to take some photos, it was probably 1 of the very early LCD, there were so many different board and one mounted on top of the others. Anyhow, after I put it back together decided to power it up for some voltages measurement. The red LED turns blue as power button pressed and I can actually see the screen with flashlight. The PS connectors provide the right voltages as the legend printed on board.

              CN902 1-2-3-4-5 = GND
              CN902 6-7-8-9-10 = 24V

              CN903 1-2 = 12V
              CN903 3-4-5-6 = GND

              CN904 1 Power ON/OFF = 4.5V
              CN904 2-3-4 = GND
              CN904 5-6 (5.1V)= 5V
              CN904 7 (5VSB)= 5V
              CN904 8-9-10 = GND
              CN904 11-12 = 12V

              I've got 24V at either ends of the inverter fuses and also 3.2V at BL_ON on the inverter board.
              does that mean the inverter board is the problem now? I will swap out the caps on the inverter just for the heck of it.
              Any suggestion please! thanks
              Attached Files

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                Do you get 24vdc at both end of the small black fuse with '20' marking on top and F 1A/76V next to it by the connector? That is the common failure on CMO inverter board
                Last edited by budm; 05-30-2013, 07:12 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                  I wonder why the bottom 8 FETs have appeared to run much hotter than the top 8 FETs. There's a very distinct change in colour between the two sides. Very odd.
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                    He may have to replace those filter caps on both sections of the board due to high AC ripple.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • woaimi
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 94
                      • US

                      #11
                      Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                      Lol...once again, it's proofed that nothing can be compared with experience. That fuse that you mentioned is probably the problem. I put my meter in 200 range and got a 1 on the display. I guess next task is to find replacement. I supposed digikey should have it available.
                      Thanks

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                        I use PICOII fuse which has two legs. Higher voltage rating is OK. Make sure to replace those caps at the same time.
                        Last edited by budm; 05-31-2013, 09:01 AM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • woaimi
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 94
                          • US

                          #13
                          Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                          Originally posted by budm
                          I use PICOII fuse which has two legs. Higher voltage rating is OK. Make sure to replace those caps at the same time.
                          Bubm, would this fuse work? It's PICO 1A 125V.
                          http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...963314?cur=USD

                          thanks again

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                            It's an obsolete part, you won't be able to buy it.
                            This you can actually buy:
                            http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...3CT-ND/3306914
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • woaimi
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 94
                              • US

                              #15
                              Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              It's an obsolete part, you won't be able to buy it.
                              This you can actually buy:
                              http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...3CT-ND/3306914
                              Woohoo! just placed an order for a dozen. Thanks Tom66

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                              • woaimi
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 94
                                • US

                                #16
                                Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                                updating....
                                Thanks everyone for all helps! That fuse does the job nicely. I went ahead and replaced the small caps as suggested.

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                                  Thanks for the repair feedback.
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                                    Glad to hear about the repair.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • ajmcello78
                                      New Member
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 1
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Norcent LT-3250 has power but screen is dark

                                      Originally posted by woaimi
                                      Woohoo! just placed an order for a dozen. Thanks Tom66

                                      Was the problem on the power supply? I just replaced mine with a pull from ebay that I paid $80 for. It worked fine for a month.

                                      The original problem with the bad PS was that it turned on and the light was green for 3 seconds then turned off (back to red).

                                      With new PS, it worked great! Fast forward 2 months.

                                      Now the TV turns on, green light stays on, and a blue screen appears for 3-5 seconds then goes black. Light stays green. Is it my power supply or computer/ECM board?

                                      Did yours have the blue screen problem? If so it might be this same problem that you ordered a dozen off. Have any left?

                                      Thank you in advance.

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