LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

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  • ben7
    Capaholic
    • Jan 2011
    • 4059
    • USA

    #1

    LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

    Hey,
    Just got a trash-picked tv to repair. As the title says, it's an LG RU-42PX10C plasma TV. Date of manufacture is november 2004.

    Plugged it in and I got no signs of life from the set. (had a sign on it saying "broken")

    The ZSUS board model is 42V6.
    FS1 (T4.0AH 250v) is bad. There is also a short from the 5v pin on P1 to ground - I am assuming that is why the TV didn't show signs of life. The 5v pin on P1 is connected to FS3 (10A 125v), however it isn't blown.

    Is there a possibility that something else in the tv has gone pop? I unplugged the ZSUS board and turned the TV on, and it came on - power supply clicked, but I couldn't see the power indicator light since the tv is resting on its front side.

    Pics soon!

    Thanks,
    -Ben
    Muh-soggy-knee
  • ben7
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    • Jan 2011
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    #2
    Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

    Here are some pictures.

    The two capacitors on the YSUS look bulged but it seems that it is just the plastic disc which has warped...

    Oh, and FS1 is 2A fuse, not 4A

    Attached Files
    Muh-soggy-knee

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

      Replace the fuse... common failure on these boards. Often the IPM is OK. Don't expect much from these. Just 480p really old plasmas.

      I'd be surprised if there is a 5V short. There is a lot of capacitance on that rail (like 15,000uF from memory) so it could just be taking a long time to charge up.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • ben7
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        • Jan 2011
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        #4
        Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

        Originally posted by tom66
        I'd be surprised if there is a 5V short. There is a lot of capacitance on that rail (like 15,000uF from memory) so it could just be taking a long time to charge up.
        I measured it with the board out of the tv...
        Muh-soggy-knee

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

          I don't think the IPMs use 5V, so look for the logic buffers, MLCC ceramics. Of course I could be wrong, if these are older IPMs, they may use 5V and that may be short. Normally they use 15V for FET drive. Could be using both.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • ben7
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            Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

            Originally posted by tom66
            I don't think the IPMs use 5V, so look for the logic buffers, MLCC ceramics. Of course I could be wrong, if these are older IPMs, they may use 5V and that may be short. Normally they use 15V for FET drive. Could be using both.
            The pins of the IPM are marked, underneath the board. There is one that is marked 5v lol. Didn't measure to see if that pin is connected to the 5v pin yet, I will do it tomorrow.
            Muh-soggy-knee

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            • ben7
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              • Jan 2011
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              #7
              Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

              Update.

              So I replaced the fuse FS1 with a 2 amp fuse. Powered on, and it didn't blow ... Vs and Va don't come up.
              Muh-soggy-knee

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

                The IPM is dead, Jim.
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • ben7
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

                  Originally posted by tom66
                  The IPM is dead, Jim.
                  Could it have popped stuff on the other boards too? I just want to know before I look for a replacement zsus board.
                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                  • ben7
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                    #10
                    Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

                    Looked at around 3 dozen sites, they were all out of stock LOL.
                    BUT, I found this. Would that be the right board? It looks exactly like mine! Not too bad a price, other sites (which were sold out) had it for over 100 bucks...
                    Muh-soggy-knee

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

                      Is it worth it? It's only a 480p plasma TV. Not HD capable. You'd be lucky to get $60 for it.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • ben7
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                        • Jan 2011
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                        #12
                        Re: LG RU-42PX10C -- Bad ZSUS board

                        Originally posted by tom66
                        Is it worth it? It's only a 480p plasma TV. Not HD capable. You'd be lucky to get $60 for it.
                        I'm not really looking to sell it.

                        Anyways, I desoldered one side of the IPM and saw that it was indeed toasted. I basically used more force to get the other side off, but I don't care if it is not worth fixing.

                        Pics:

                        Overview:


                        Closeup of fried transistors:


                        I can't understand why they wouldn't use current balancing resistors for the transistors, that is likely why they failed. One probably conducted too much current, shorted, and popped the other one, and the fuse too.
                        Attached Files
                        Muh-soggy-knee

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