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  • Berts
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 55
    • Scotland

    #1

    HELP Please with faulty TV

    Hi,

    I wonder if you can help I have a Toshiba 32V500B. After a while of being on 1 min or so, a red hue appears on the screen and gradually gets worse.

    So far I have changed the inverter, power board and output boards.

    What else could it be?

    I will attach 2 pictures to show you before and after 1 minute of being on.

    regards

    Berts

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxy2r5a67w...2000.54.12.jpg

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5vswcwijourrty/IMAG0317.jpg
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

    There should be an additional letter before "V".

    Looking at the menus I'd say you've got a Vestel built Toshiba (if that letter is a "B", "D", "S" or "K"), which is the same as a Bush or Alba or any other supermarket cheapie. (You would be right to be disappointed if this is the case.)

    A lot of bad panels on these models, due to tab bonds. It is usually fixable though.
    Last edited by tom66; 02-24-2013, 05:02 PM.
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    • Berts
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 55
      • Scotland

      #3
      Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

      Ah yes "K" my bad. Its not actually my TV but said I would fix it, thinking that if I replaced all the boards as I have done with others that would sort it. But no joy

      How would I fix these "tab bonds" and where are they situated?

      Thankyou for your time too, really appreciate it.

      Bert

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

        The tab bonds are on the edges of the LCD panel itself. The operation is difficult but typically achieves over 90% success rate.

        Different faults, but same base cause:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHst6pKLtTE
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purk_SyiT44
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        • Berts
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          • Aug 2012
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          • Scotland

          #5
          Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

          Excellent thanks for your help Tom I will post back how I get on.

          Respect

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          • Berts
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 55
            • Scotland

            #6
            Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

            Ok, so I tried looking at the tabs and no help.

            I thought that if I uploaded a video for you that might help?

            https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74442358/20...2023.23.37.mp4

            I really am stuck with this one ???

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            • Berts
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 55
              • Scotland

              #7
              Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

              Does that link work ok for you guys?

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
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                #8
                Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                Downloading it now, slow internet.
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                • Berts
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 55
                  • Scotland

                  #9
                  Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                  Yeah its a big file too HD

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                  • Berts
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 55
                    • Scotland

                    #10
                    Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                    Any Ideas Tom?

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                      Sorry, forgot entirely about this post.

                      Red hue slowly fading is T-con or panel, or perhaps the supply voltage to the T-con.

                      When the hue appears have you tried pressing the bonds? On the IC as well as the bond->LCD and board->bond areas?

                      Also, try slowly and carefully heating them with a hairdryer to see if you can get the effect to occur quicker.
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                      • Berts
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                        • Aug 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                        Thanks, I will have a play tonight and repost my findings, thanks again for your time.

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                        • Berts
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
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                          • Scotland

                          #13
                          Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                          Tom, I tried the points you noted above and cannot get any reaction. I did however find that if I let the red hue start and then removed and reattached the T-Con ribbon cable the hue disappeared instantly?

                          I have included another video for your review if you wouldn't mind taking a look and sharing your thoughts?

                          https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74442358/VIDEO0029.mp4

                          Regards

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                            You may have a loose cable, temperature sensitive component or cold solder joint on the T-con. Regional heating or freezing using cold spray (compressed air works too) may help find where the problem is.
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                            • Berts
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                              • Aug 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                              Yes I have tried cold spray and could not find the cause. If it were a temperature sensitive component I would assume that unplugging the T-con and re attaching it so quickly would not have the effect I am getting. The hue takes just as long to come back after the quick unplug as it does if I start the panel from cold.

                              Do you think the re flowing the T-con panel would help. I have various equipment round here to do it. I could even use a hot air wand to resolder each component if you think it will help?

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                              • tom66
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                                #16
                                Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                                I think that would quickly risk damage to the LCD panel. It's not removable from the panel. Other things to check would be the supply voltage to the T-con.
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                                • Berts
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                                  #17
                                  Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                                  Not sure I know exactly where to test for the voltage.

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                                  • tom66
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                                    #18
                                    Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                                    There should be a fuse on it.
                                    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwBg&dur=571

                                    Voltage is measured at both ends with red probe on each end, black on chassis.
                                    Last edited by tom66; 03-13-2013, 11:43 AM.
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                                    • Berts
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                                      • Aug 2012
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                                      #19
                                      Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                                      Tom, I am getting 11.95v across the fuse. I am guessing that is good?

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                                      • tom66
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                                        #20
                                        Re: HELP Please with faulty TV

                                        Sounds good; is it stable when the picture goes red?
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