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  • JCdes
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 91
    • USA

    #1

    Element FLX3711B

    Tv would only turn on after a few days unplugged, replaced Power supply and nothing, replaced motherboard and worked. Now the problem is picture looks like if it was a computer on 256 color mode and no audio. Only diff in the model of the motherboards is mine was 200-107-GT321XA-AH XA2 and the replacement is an XA (also board was from a polaroid which I thought oh well I'll just get the polaroid logo instead). I had to move jp2 to the lower position for it to boot but I get those ugly colors (like when you set a pc for 256 color mode) and no audio. ANy ideas? Maybe replacement board is also bad?
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Element FLX3711B

    Probably set for a different panel -- you would need to enter the service menu to change this, if this set has one.
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    • JCdes
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 91
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Element FLX3711B

      It does... But I cant remember how to get in it. I remember it was a combination using the side buttons but cant remember. I just noticed besides the jumper being in diff position the original board has a jumper on the bottom side from a coil to a cap. But if anybody has the info on getting into the service menu I'll be greatfull.

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: Element FLX3711B

        If it thinks it is a polaroid you could try this ( at your own risk)
        http://www.jack-frost.co.uk/polaroid...tory_menu.html
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • cashkennedy
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Aug 2011
          • 666
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Element FLX3711B

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809
          has factory reset codes for most tv makes, I believe the polaroid one is the same as what selldoor's link uses.

          There are also element ones listed on that thread, but most likely you need the polaroid ones now.

          On a lot of sets the factory reset is the same as entering the service mode.
          Fixed so far 12 lcd's , 1 plasmas, 5 monitors, 0 dlp's (plan to keep the dlps at 0). and 3 atx power supplies, and 2 motherboards.

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          • JCdes
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 91
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Element FLX3711B

            I was able to get to the menu but no luck...

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            • JCdes
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 91
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Element FLX3711B

              I found a difference in the original board on the power supply header connections. The original board has two connections bridged to gnd. I have attached images to better explain myself.
              Attached Files

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              • JCdes
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 91
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Element FLX3711B

                Maybe it needs that ground?

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Element FLX3711B

                  Check for continuity between the unbroken connections. May be a design alteration.
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                  • JCdes
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 91
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Element FLX3711B

                    Probably firmware since it is from anther brand... Original board fires up whenever it feels like it. Could it be caps or cpu maybe? I'm not gonna try a tsop and eeprom swap just yet but I'm considering it. Original board works randomly and once I switch it off it satys off for days sometimes a week before it turns on again if I leave it unplugged for that perod of time.
                    Last edited by JCdes; 02-16-2013, 12:27 PM. Reason: Typo

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Element FLX3711B

                      Have you tried heating up parts of original board to see if you can get it to work or fail?
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                      • JCdes
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 91
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Element FLX3711B

                        No, should I try the hair dryer?

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                        • JCdes
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 91
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Element FLX3711B

                          Used the hair dryer, heated everything on board and nothing still just red light. I was reading one of the FSM's and the troubleshooting flowchart just directs me to the ir board. Polaroid board fires up, once it did turn on just by pluging it in to the outlet. But old board does nothing, I bet if I unplug it for a few days it will turn on again. Seriously considering tsop and eeprom swap. But I would love to get the original working propperly.

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Element FLX3711B

                            This is on the original board which intermittently works?
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                            • JCdes
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 91
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Element FLX3711B

                              Yes the original board intermitently works if I unplug it for a few days. Every time I turn it off I have to unplug it for days in order for it to work again.

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: Element FLX3711B

                                I would wait until it starts working, then heat it up ...

                                OR, I would use freeze spray to cool it down to see if I can get it to work again. A can of compressed air, when inverted, also becomes freeze spray.
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                                • JCdes
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Feb 2013
                                  • 91
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Element FLX3711B

                                  Dont have freeze spray but I'll get some.

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                                  • JCdes
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2013
                                    • 91
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Element FLX3711B

                                    Found freeze spray in the garage, nothing changes.

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Element FLX3711B

                                      That makes very little sense for it to be purely dependent upon time and not temperature. How, if at all, have you localised the cooling?
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                                      • JCdes
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Feb 2013
                                        • 91
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Element FLX3711B

                                        I'm also stumped about that, that is why I was wondering if it could be cpu issues.

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