Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

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  • Daddyfixit
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    • Jun 2013
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    #21
    Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

    Yes that is!

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    • Daddyfixit
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      • Jun 2013
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      #22
      Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

      Yes it is! But this is the second time I'm typing this as it disappeared after I typed it?

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

        OK, there are 4 DC Voltage test points, Black probe to the chassis, red probe to each one of those points when the TV is turn on and when it is turn off.
        Attached Files
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Daddyfixit
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          • Jun 2013
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          • Canada

          #24
          Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

          Okay so I just wanna say that the cage that protects that board is off so I don't know if its still grounded correctly. But after I checked it at all the pins you asked while everything else is connected and with either power on and off they all read 0. Now should I be using the meter that reads 75/200 V? Or 1000/200/20/200m/2000m?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

            You should use the screws to mount the board back in place to get the ground connections. Your meter cannot do less than 75VDC? What kind of meter is this?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Daddyfixit
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              • Jun 2013
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              #26
              Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

              Sorry that was 750/200. By the way the screws that will hold down the board are tiny, the only real way the boards contacts will make proper contact is if I bolt back on the cover, not sure I can take readings after?

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              • Daddyfixit
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                • Jun 2013
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                #27
                Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                This is what I'm working with
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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                  750/200 setting is for AC not for DC Voltage reading. The VDC mode is to the left of the meter mode selector knob. At this point you should read your meter manual how to use the meter first before going further. I cannot see clear scale on the VDC setting.
                  By the way, what kind of tools do you have for soldering?
                  Last edited by budm; 06-21-2013, 11:28 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Daddyfixit
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                    • Jun 2013
                    • 20
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                    Well my brother here was saying that it was fine on the 750/200AC side, but I was testing it with 20 DC. which was the scale reading 2000m/200m/20/200/2000

                    I have a small butane one with tips that I never used before, but something makes me believe I will be using them soon? O should I use a conventional plug in type?
                    Last edited by Daddyfixit; 06-21-2013, 11:42 PM.

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                    • Daddyfixit
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                      • Jun 2013
                      • 20
                      • Canada

                      #30
                      Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                      Okay I think I have to call it a night, if there is something else you feel I should try, let me know. Thank you for your time up to now you've been amazing!

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                      • Daddyfixit
                        Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 20
                        • Canada

                        #31
                        Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                        Okay so I was looking at the pins you gave me to check for voltage. Looks like they run directly to the main power board, but, when I checked to see where they lead to, it wasn't what I think you were looking to see. I did however manage to see that there are four leads of the power board that go to four leads to this back light inverter board. So I am getting the 24V like it states, So this means we\re good there. Does this mean those darfon things are toast and how do I check?
                        Last edited by Daddyfixit; 06-22-2013, 07:57 AM.

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                        • newtothis
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1556
                          • england

                          #32
                          Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                          OK firstly have you figured how to use your DMM?.. because no using AC tests for DC doesnt work... One is alt current other is direct.

                          Use 20 dc test for the connectors, test all pins as stated before and make sure you ground the black test probe to a screw Report the results back

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                            OK, so the 24VDC power supply is working, but we need the DC reading of the other 3 pins I have marked, they are (cannot tell which pin is what right now) for Backlights On control pin, Dimming control pin, the third one I do not know. The main board may not be sending the BL_ON signal. Please read my Basic LCD TV troubleshooting guide to understand what it needs to work. Those 3 pins should change state when TV is powered on and powered off.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Daddyfixit
                              Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 20
                              • Canada

                              #34
                              Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                              Okay so I've tried the other pins as you asked from your diagram. There is nothing present 0V, and from the side you asked for me to check there was nothing, but the other side actually powers up on five the pins, these all lead to the main a/c board and they are stamped 24V on the bored, they all get 24.7V once I turn the tv on. The last pin when I follow to my A/C bored reads DIM but like I said its reading 0V. So there is no ON signal obviously, what do I do next?

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                                That means the main board is the problem since it is not sending the BL_ON, DIMMING signals required by the inverter board to work. I do not have too much luck repairing the Insignia main board, you may be able to do some DC voltage checking of the voltage regulators.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Daddyfixit
                                  Member
                                  • Jun 2013
                                  • 20
                                  • Canada

                                  #36
                                  Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                                  I've all ready installed a brand new A/C power board, I figured with all the main fuses and bad capacitors everyoned talks about I went ahead and ordered a new board for $46 shipped? When you say main board do you mean power board?
                                  Last edited by Daddyfixit; 06-24-2013, 03:53 PM.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                                    It looks something like this:
                                    http://www.shopjimmy.com/insignia-cb...aznkw1bynn.htm
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Daddyfixit
                                      Member
                                      • Jun 2013
                                      • 20
                                      • Canada

                                      #38
                                      Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                                      Okay no that's not what I ordered? Okay so this essentially is my next purchase, I will order and keep you posted, thanks in advance for the help!

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                                        "The last pin when I follow to my A/C bored reads DIM but like I said its reading 0V" Just to be sure, you have the meter set to DC mode not AC, right?
                                        What is " A/C bored"?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • logonsys
                                          Member
                                          • Jul 2012
                                          • 25
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Insignia NS-LCD37 - One Second to Black - Another one

                                          Hi everybody. I recieved a tv that is having the same problem and have read thru these threads. It's an Insignia NS-LCD37, when powered on the screen quickly shows "No Signal" then goes dark. Previous owner said it worked fine then one day, no picture, just sound. So, I opened it up, no obvious bad caps. I tested the power supply at the cable connectors and it reads voltages as printed on the board. I tested the inverter board and T1-T8 all show 2.2. I looked for F1, F2, and F3 assuming they are fuses and simply tested for continuity figuring a blown fuse would read zero, not sure how else to test them. Anyway, so far every things seems normal, any suggestions on what to try next? Trying to post a pic next but guarantee the quality will be pretty bad as it's an older cell phone camera. Thanks in advance!

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