Baird X47DTV power supply issues

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #121
    Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

    Looks like the guy has completely f#*ked up a simple soldering joint.

    Remove ALL of the original solder. Use wick not a solder sucker.
    Apply new solder. If necessary apply external flux.
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    • gilly1984
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jun 2012
      • 751
      • UK

      #122
      Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

      Originally posted by tom66
      Looks like the guy has completely f#*ked up a simple soldering joint.

      Remove ALL of the original solder. Use wick not a solder sucker.
      Apply new solder. If necessary apply external flux.
      Seems he has burnt the trace too.

      Okay to solder from the trace to the fet leg?

      Prob less than 2mm.

      Could of sworn i had a spare 18n50, any substitute to use? PSU Is only driving the backlights at 6A
      Last edited by gilly1984; 02-22-2013, 02:57 PM.
      Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #123
        Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

        Should be fine.
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        • gilly1984
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jun 2012
          • 751
          • UK

          #124
          Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

          Just thought I would throw this towards you Tom as I know you are on. The shitty job on the soldering is not infact on a mosfet, its on a leg of a transformer??

          It looked to me like the mosfet but on closer inspection it was the tranny separating the primary from the secondary side. The tranny secondary leads to the 24v line.

          I have done my best to solder it and it checks ok for continuity.

          Could a badly soldered leg of a tranny cause the N channel mosfet to short?
          Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #125
            Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

            Originally posted by gilly1984
            Could a badly soldered leg of a tranny cause the N channel mosfet to short?
            Yes, if the lead is loose, it can cause lots of possible problems. Sometimes just no power, other times it can damage the fets.

            Another possibility is the joint is rubbish (from factory or from previous repair) and is probably intermittent, BUT, the main issue has reoccurred (FETs shorting due to inadequate design and poor cooling.)
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            • gilly1984
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jun 2012
              • 751
              • UK

              #126
              Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

              Ok Thank you.

              Also Tom, while you are still responding to this long Bairded thread.

              When you helped me fix my tv last time it worked fine for about a month then died again, same fet and ic blown , so what i did is nicked the fet and ic (They were the same, pri) from the 12v side and replaced the blown ones (on the 24v side, pri) but tv would not switch on, this was because the second psu was not sensing the 12v, so what I did was run a wire from the 12v output on the main psu to the 12v output on the slave psu so the slave seen 12v and would stay on. I then stuck a small 12v fan connected to a 5v output on the psu near the heatsink of the fet that blew again and it has been fine ever since

              That explanation is probably crap. If you need a vid explanation let me know.

              I am guessing it blew again due to my soldering skills.
              Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #127
                Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                It probably blew because it's a cheap power supply and underrated to run a 47" LCD backlight.
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • gilly1984
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 751
                  • UK

                  #128
                  Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                  and pop goes my new 18n50. soon as the backlights tried turning on it buzzed and popped the fet and fuse. I think the transformer is broke somehow?

                  bought PSU off eBay instead.

                  will use this broke one for spares for when mine breaks again.

                  Thanks again Tom.
                  Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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                  • izzycomosy
                    New Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 3
                    • united kingdon UK

                    #129
                    Re: Baird X47DTV Psu"

                    Hi Does anyone know where I can get a Baird X47DTV psu in UK I need one for my tv set
                    Would be very grateful for a reply.

                    Thanks in advance

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                    • izzycomosy
                      New Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 3
                      • united kingdon UK

                      #130
                      Re: Baird 47"

                      Originally posted by gilly1984
                      Ok, i have the tv now,

                      Plugged it in and no lights no power no nothin.

                      Open it up and straight away notice a popped cap. (pic 1) 420v 180uf
                      Thought the big caps never go?

                      Then i noticed that there was a ribbon cable that links the 2 inverter board that was broken (pic 2), what is that for? Both inverters have there own power from the 2 power supplies.

                      Also both fuses have been blown, 1 in each psu.

                      Someone has been in it before as the brown and blue wires have been cut then reattached? See last pic.

                      Edit;
                      Yes, i know, my nails are manky.

                      There was a hole in the back casing, looks like they stuck summat inside and broke that ribbon cable.
                      Hi do you mind telling me are the both power supply units the same code PSM210-417 as I need to get the one on the left hand side of the main picture of the whole tv. many thanks,tv repair man took the other one and I think he is ripping me off for a £100 plus for the replacement psu. if I can get one cheaper I will fit it myself...many thanks

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