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  • gilly1984
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2012
    • 751
    • UK

    #101
    Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

    Mosfet dead, but not the one i replaced, now its the other one, near where i replaced the hyperfast diode.

    What the hell?
    Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #102
      Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

      On same PSU or other PSU?
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      • gilly1984
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        • Jun 2012
        • 751
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        #103
        Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

        same psu.

        remember that pop I heard, well there was a nice burn mark under the fet, not the fet I replaced, but the fet attached to the heatsink that the hyperfast diode was attached to.

        I must of shorted it when attaching the heatsink back on, that first pop damaged it, then next day the surge of electric being switched back on took it out completely.

        I just happened to have 2 spares on that bush psu, stole one off it and fitted it to the Baird, soldered it all back together and 2 legs were shorted, removed the solder, cleaned it up a bit and resoldered, checked for shorts and yay, there were none.

        plugged it in and no pop noise, pressed the power button and she's alive again lol.

        bought a surge protection plug, just in case lol.
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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #104
          Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

          Unlikely... MOSFETs are all or nothing, it's rare to wound them. Something else is killing them. It could be the 180uF not soldered in properly. This would cause spikes or transients. Also is the 180uF low ESR?
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          • gilly1984
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            • Jun 2012
            • 751
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            #105
            Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

            not sure. its a Panasonic HD series cap.

            its was definately a short I created with solder as there was splash marks behind the psu on the chassis from the flux on the solder. at first I thought it arced out onto the chassis but the legs were no where near it.
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            • gilly1984
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              • Jun 2012
              • 751
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              #106
              Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

              Here is a pic of it tom.
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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #107
                Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                Your flux is conductive - you need to clean it with some isopropyl alcohol before it fries more stuff.
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                • gilly1984
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                  • Jun 2012
                  • 751
                  • UK

                  #108
                  Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                  Shit. Will get some tomoz.

                  Cheers.
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                  • gilly1984
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                    • Jun 2012
                    • 751
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                    #109
                    Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                    Just found this on another site on google.

                    "Used flux is hydroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air) and can lead to bridging conductivity between pads and traces, at the least adding stray capacitance.

                    This is why commercial boards are thoroughly cleaned of all excess and used flux, boards can are often rejected in the QC phase just for flux residue being present."

                    So good call there tom.
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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #110
                      Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                      Not ALL flux is conductive. The good stuff isn't. But the cheap stuff in cheaper solder tends to be.
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                      • gilly1984
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 751
                        • UK

                        #111
                        Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                        not sure what stuff this is, got it off a mechanic who fixes electric milk floats.

                        couldn't use the cheap stuff from eBay, iron wasn't hot enough to melt it.

                        should I use this thread to ask about the poor sound quality and possible speaker upgrade.
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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #112
                          Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                          All LCD sound is poor, solution is to use a 5.1 system, you can get them pretty cheap as faulty.
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                          • gilly1984
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                            • Jun 2012
                            • 751
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                            #113
                            Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                            already have an AV amp but only like to use it for films, I'm probably just used to the Sony TV, that sounded nice.

                            first question the missus asked about this Baird is "what's wrong with the sound".

                            just have to get used to it then

                            hopefully case closed on this thing now .

                            thank you again pal.
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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #114
                              Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                              You could always sell it, and keep the Sony. Personally, that is what I would do.
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                              • gilly1984
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                                • Jun 2012
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                                #115
                                Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                                gave bro inlaw Sony for running me places when I buy TVs. no transport without him

                                woulndt sell it anyway with that ribbon bodge I did.
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                                • gilly1984
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                                  • Jun 2012
                                  • 751
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                                  #116
                                  Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  Is this a 1080p or 720p set?
                                  Plugged a Talk Talk YouView box into it and it said 1080p on the tv

                                  But pc wont go to that resolution?
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                                  • tom66
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                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
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                                    #117
                                    Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                                    No way you'll get 1080p over the cheap VGA electronics this TV no doubts uses. Must use DVI/HDMI for that. Heck even the Sammy in our living room only takes 1440x900 over VGA.
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                                    • gilly1984
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                                      • Jun 2012
                                      • 751
                                      • UK

                                      #118
                                      Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                                      Ah I see.

                                      Need better AGP card then with hdmi out.
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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
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                                        #119
                                        Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                                        Or DVI, which is compatible with HDMI. I use a PNY Nvidia 8400GS in the media PC. No fan on mine, so it's silent. Certainly not a great performer but you can play some half-decent games on low detail on it. Plus it helps with video playback.
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                                        • gilly1984
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                                          • Jun 2012
                                          • 751
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                                          #120
                                          Re: Baird X47DTV power supply issues

                                          Just got myself another one of these tvs,

                                          Keeps popping fuses this one, found a shorted mosfet on the main psu.

                                          Obviously had problems in the past as the slave psu is different from the main one (Looks like an ebay chinese one)

                                          There is also another mosfet that refuses to attract solder, the guy said it broke last time and he got someone to resolder it but obviously he had no idea what he was doing.

                                          I am guessing the reason a mosfet blew is because this bad solder joint was floating.

                                          The mosfet with the bad solder is not the one that blew though, the one that has shorted is the one closest to the main cap.

                                          How can I get the solder to adhere to it?

                                          PSU on left is original one from tv.
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