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  • alphadog777
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    • Jul 2012
    • 5
    • united states

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    46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

    i found this tv on the curb, after some research and some poking around. i have taken out all connections and put them back in securely. the main board looks as if it may have gotten wet, possible spill? (nothing burnt, just some hardwater spots and even very little rust in certain spots) i'm not sure but the main board looks shabby, the tcon looks untouched and flawless. when i start the tv with no inputs it has white horizontal lines that do not move. if i unplug the ribbons from the tcon either left or right, the problem goes away on the unplugged side. back light and panel are still working getting power and sound. and it still displays some what of an image. i'm 90% convinced its the main board, but im looking for a second opinion.

    https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...72100085_n.jpg
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

    There's an easy way to verify if is the main or T-con fault on a Samsung.

    Turn off the TV. Press Info-Menu-Mute-Power on remote control.

    You should get into the service menu.

    Post a picture of this, because it's different for each Samsung TV I've seen. Try looking for the LVDS option page, which lets you change LVDS format.

    Changing the LVDS format will mess up the colours. BUT, if it messes up the whole picture, it is the main board at fault. If it only messes up the background image, it is a T-con fault. If it has been rain damaged it could still have damage to the LCD panel drivers on the top of the screen causing the issue you see.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • alphadog777
      New Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 5
      • united states

      #3
      Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

      i dont have a remote control for this television is there another way to get into the service menu? lets hope its just the tcon or main, i really am in need of another tv aha, this would be fantastic come up!

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

        Originally posted by alphadog777
        i dont have a remote control for this television is there another way to get into the service menu? lets hope its just the tcon or main, i really am in need of another tv aha, this would be fantastic come up!
        You'll need to buy a remote control unfortunately to get into the service menu. You can get replacement remotes which work fine for around $10.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • alphadog777
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          • Jul 2012
          • 5
          • united states

          #5
          Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

          how would i diagnose the panel drives, sorry i really have no experience in tv repair :/

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

            Originally posted by alphadog777
            how would i diagnose the panel drives, sorry i really have no experience in tv repair :/
            Not easily... you'd probably need a very high speed oscilloscope.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • alphadog777
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              • Jul 2012
              • 5
              • united states

              #7
              Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

              well, first off i dont think it was left out in the rain, non of the other parts appear to have gotten wet. i guess ill get a remote in order to go to the service menu and diagnose the tcon or main. what would i see if they are both good? cross one bridge at a time :p

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              • alphadog777
                New Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 5
                • united states

                #8
                Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

                the only thing im worried about is somehow the panel is no good and i will be wasting money on a tcon or main bored to begin with :/

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

                  Originally posted by alphadog777
                  well, first off i dont think it was left out in the rain, non of the other parts appear to have gotten wet. i guess ill get a remote in order to go to the service menu and diagnose the tcon or main. what would i see if they are both good? cross one bridge at a time :p
                  Either the main or the T-con/panel has failed. It can be hard to separate the T-con and panel fault though I would admit it looks a LOT like digital noise rather than typical panel failure so you might be lucky. Take a chance, I did on a 42" LCD and it worked great .
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • tibimakai
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 3680
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

                    My Samsung needs a Mute, 182 and Power to get to the service menu.

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                    • leebanks
                      New Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1

                      #11
                      Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

                      Hi
                      Caught your post when researching samsung T con failure
                      Strongly suspct Yours is/was a Tcon failure fault
                      BTW some Toshiba lcd tv use same Tcon boards
                      Sorry if you have already sorted it out - and if so could u email me to let me know how it was fixed for future reference
                      Cheers Les
                      email lesbanks671@yahoo.com

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                      • dssence
                        Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 31

                        #12
                        Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

                        Hi tom66 I just came across your posts by looking at this thread. I'll tell you what's my problem basically I have a samsung 47 46d7000 led , and on the left side I see really transparent fine lines..just a block of 2cm width, at first I thought it might be image persistance or burn in , cause I read lot's of books on the tv with aadobe reader and the lines match perfectly the solid panel of adobe acrobat on that side of the tv. But .. I ran a solid white rectangle changing black / white / black / white on that side of the tv.. and didn't do anything. I'm leaving you a link of the image.. so you can have a better idea.. I didn't pm you cause you said. .you don't want to. I'm stating to worry.. if it's TCON going bad or maybe a flex it's not doing good contact.

                        http://www.mediafire.com/view/?myfiles#mje2gn6jlitke6g

                        that's the link

                        my msn it's daaudiome@hotmail.com just let me know

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: 46 in samsung possible bad main or tcon, need help

                          Originally posted by dssence
                          Hi tom66 I just came across your posts by looking at this thread. I'll tell you what's my problem basically I have a samsung 47 46d7000 led , and on the left side I see really transparent fine lines..just a block of 2cm width, at first I thought it might be image persistance or burn in , cause I read lot's of books on the tv with aadobe reader and the lines match perfectly the solid panel of adobe acrobat on that side of the tv. But .. I ran a solid white rectangle changing black / white / black / white on that side of the tv.. and didn't do anything. I'm leaving you a link of the image.. so you can have a better idea.. I didn't pm you cause you said. .you don't want to. I'm stating to worry.. if it's TCON going bad or maybe a flex it's not doing good contact.

                          http://www.mediafire.com/view/?myfiles#mje2gn6jlitke6g

                          that's the link

                          my msn it's ***removed*** just let me know
                          I don't email users -- suggest you remove yours to avoid spam.

                          Anyway, can't see the pic, but I'd say if you've got numerous fine lines, the panel is probably at fault.

                          Best to create another thread though.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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