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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
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    Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

    I've got hold of a Bush BFSAT01HD, in the hopes of repairing it and ditching Sky and saving some money. Also HD would be nice on my trashpicked 42". This is a HD Freesat receiver (for receiving free-to-air satellite, about 150 channels.)

    It's stuck in standby. Blue LED lights on the front. Pressing button does nothing. All other buttons inactive.

    It takes a 12V power supply and that works fine. I've used one of my own known good ones just to make sure.

    All switchers look good, core voltages are okay. (6.8V, 3.3V, 2.6V and 1.25V.) All LDOs test good. (Only two on the board, one for analog stuff I think and another for the DDR termination (a special type of LDO?))

    Full of cheap TAICON but none bad on first sight. Ripple on rails is pretty low, within acceptable margins.

    Main processor gets slightly warm (big heatsink) but that's it. Nothing else.

    LNB voltages are no where to be seen, but I don't expect they will be in standby.

    So I began to suspect a firmware/software problem - looked it up and apparently a lot of these boxes have been bricked by a botched over the air update. It's got an RS232 port on it, so I suspect I can update the firmware through that, but I can find NO instructions anywhere on how to do this... Bush is completely useless, but what else do you expect from Argos?

    Also, there's a connector for SATA.

    It's very tempting to drill that out and install a SATA connector, then wire up an e-SATA drive. With firmware from another box, maybe it'll work with the drive . Dirt cheap Freesat recorder.
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  • Radio Fox
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    • Jan 2010
    • 281
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

    Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I have just aquired 2 of these boxes in the same state.

    Did you get any further with your box? I was also thinking that talking to the box through the RS232 might be the way forward, but cannot find any info on the net.

    I do have a working Grundig GUFSAT01HD which uses the same board to compare it with, but if the firmware has bricked it, then I don't think it will help.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

      Originally posted by Radio Fox
      Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I have just aquired 2 of these boxes in the same state.

      Did you get any further with your box? I was also thinking that talking to the box through the RS232 might be the way forward, but cannot find any info on the net.

      I do have a working Grundig GUFSAT01HD which uses the same board to compare it with, but if the firmware has bricked it, then I don't think it will help.
      Never fixed it; I figure that it had bricked firmware but never tried to re-load it and sold it on at cost to someone else who could.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • Radio Fox
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        • Jan 2010
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        Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

        Out of interest I connected the working Grundig to the pc's serial port & ran hyperterminal. On powering the Grundig, I got a load of data on the hyperterminal screen.

        When I connected either of the non working Bush boxes, I got nothing at all from the serial port. I know very little about RS232 comms, but it looks like they can't be reflashed through the serial port.
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        • gilly1984
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          • Jun 2012
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          Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

          Originally posted by Radio Fox
          Out of interest I connected the working Grundig to the pc's serial port & ran hyperterminal. On powering the Grundig, I got a load of data on the hyperterminal screen.

          When I connected either of the non working Bush boxes, I got nothing at all from the serial port. I know very little about RS232 comms, but it looks like they can't be reflashed through the serial port.
          It may just require the correct software to read it.

          I dont know much about rs232, just used it to flash eurovox's and cable modems, but thats enough on that
          Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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          • sienoki
            sienoki
            • Jan 2012
            • 314

            #6
            Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

            Originally posted by gilly1984
            It may just require the correct software to read it.

            I dont know much about rs232, just used it to flash eurovox's and cable modems, but thats enough on that
            Join up with digital spy forum & ask in there Tom

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            • gilly1984
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              • Jun 2012
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              Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

              Originally posted by sienoki
              Join up with digital spy forum & ask in there Tom
              Yh, or possibly Techwatch forums,, Although last time i visited there it gave me a virus bigtime. Fixed now though i believe.
              Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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              • Radio Fox
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                • Jan 2010
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                Re: Bush BFSAT01HD - Stuck in standby

                I am already a member of Digital Spy. I searched their forums a couple of days ago to see if anyone else had managed to flash a bricked box, but no luck. Perhaps I might need to revisit one of my, err...less scrupulous sites!

                The fact that the non-working box doesn't communicate through the RS232 when power is applied, whereas the good box produces hundreds of lines of text, isn't a good sign.
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