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  • Nicktronic
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    • Mar 2023
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    #1

    RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

    Hey, please the attached pics. This TV will turn on (Backlights on) but no picture provided. I tried disconnecting the right side LVDS cable between the tcon and buffer board (pic 1) and then the left side LVDS cable between the tcon and buffer board (pic 2). I get an image each time, but as you can see, there's a discoloration issue happening. But with both LVDS cables connected i get a black screen (BL ON though).

    Just curious if anybody has seen this before? I will provide pictures of the boards shortly, I'm just in a rush and wanted to get this posted and see what the experts think!

    Thanks
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  • Nicktronic
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    #2
    Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

    Sorry for the delay, I got the pictures uploaded.

    I also took some measurements on the T-Con:

    All GM V - 0
    VGH - 0
    VGL - 0
    VDDA - 0

    BUT! IF I DISCONNECT THE LEFT OR RIGHT RIBBON CABLE TO THE PANEL BOARD (or both at sametime), I GET THE FOLLOWING MEASUREMENTS:

    Gamma V

    14.99
    14.23
    12.27
    10.97
    10.19
    9.77
    8.21
    7.15
    5.58
    5.17
    4.40
    3.11
    1.15
    0.39

    VGH - 25.05
    VGL - -6.06
    VDDA - 15.93

    I've changed the T-Con without success. Am I to assume its the panel??
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    • Biruslapio
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      • Nov 2013
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      • Brasil

      #3
      Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

      I see some horizontal lines, probably panel failure since t-con replacement did nothing, inspect the panel boards for shorts and/or overheating components.

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      • Nicktronic
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        • Mar 2023
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        #4
        Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

        Originally posted by Biruslapio
        I see some horizontal lines, probably panel failure since t-con replacement did nothing, inspect the panel boards for shorts and/or overheating components.
        I will, but why do all the T-Con voltages go to zero when both cables are connected? How could any components on the panel boards get hot if there is no signal from the T-Con?

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        • lotas
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          • Jan 2016
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          • Russia

          #5
          Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

          Originally posted by Nicktronic
          I will, but why do all the T-Con voltages go to zero when both cables are connected? How could any components on the panel boards get hot if there is no signal from the T-Con?
          The protection is activated and the voltages in the T-CON DC / DC converter are turned off if there is a short or low resistance on these lines.

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          • Nicktronic
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            • Mar 2023
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            #6
            Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

            Originally posted by lotas
            The protection is activated and the voltages in the T-CON DC / DC converter are turned off if there is a short or low resistance on these lines.
            When I power on with only one ribbon cable connected (L or R), this IC goes to over 140F until the washed out/negative looking image appears (the ones that I shared in Post #1). Once the image comes up, it starts to cool down to around 86F. I can't find any information on the IC though.

            Does anybody know what it does and if it's normal to get crazy hot?
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            • Diah
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              • Feb 2013
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              #7
              Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

              you have shorted gamma ic on T-CON

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              • Nicktronic
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                • Mar 2023
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                #8
                Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                Originally posted by Diah
                you have shorted gamma ic on T-CON
                I already replaced the T-Con, no change.....

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                • Diah
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                  • Feb 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                  Originally posted by Nicktronic
                  I already replaced the T-Con, no change.....
                  you never wrote about replacing.... i am talking on yours first post the 2 photos you uploaded ob old or replacement t-con its shorted Gamma IC

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                  • Nicktronic
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                    • Mar 2023
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                    #10
                    Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                    Originally posted by Diah
                    you never wrote about replacing.... i am talking on yours first post the 2 photos you uploaded ob old or replacement t-con its shorted Gamma IC
                    I did at the end of Post #2, but that's ok! Moving on, so what can I do if both T-Cons have the same result? The 2nd one is new from Shop Jimmy. Is the Gamma IC possibly dead on both? Maybe the panel caused it?

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                    • Diah
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                      • Feb 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                      sorry just i read at the end of post#2 ..
                      you replaced T-CON. but its far to call it new. the pictures show GAMMA fault. the IC you linked at post #6 are SPI NOR Flash Dual I/O . but its label look out as local manufactured by panel. so i dont know under which Taktfrequency this work, you may find from TV Spec picture Freq.

                      in general the SPI receive the Data direct from T-CON. so if the DATA Freq ( GAMMA ) fault it will effect it this why it become warm to hot and then cooling down after the image cleared.
                      you can check the VCC on pin 8 to know if its 3.3V or 1.8V. also you can carefully take it out and then turn on. if the image / half picture come clear or not.
                      Last edited by Diah; 05-04-2023, 12:15 AM.

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                      • lotas
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                        • Jan 2016
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                        #12
                        Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                        Originally posted by Diah
                        sorry just i read at the end of post#2 ..
                        you replaced T-CON. but its far to call it new. the pictures show GAMMA fault. the IC you linked at post #6 are SPI NOR Flash Dual I/O . but its label look out as local manufactured by panel. so i dont know under which Taktfrequency this work, you may find from TV Spec picture Freq.

                        in general the SPI receive the Data direct from T-CON. so if the DATA Freq ( GAMMA ) fault it will effect it this why it become warm to hot and then cooling down after the image cleared.
                        you can check the VCC on pin 8 to know if its 3.3V or 1.8V. also you can carefully take it out and then turn on. if the image / half picture come clear or not.
                        What is this SPI NOR Flash Dual I / O, this is a VCOM signal converter.
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                        • Nicktronic
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                          #13
                          Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                          Originally posted by lotas
                          What is this SPI NOR Flash Dual I / O, this is a VCOM signal converter.
                          I think I agree with @lotas, after reading a little bit about VCOM, it can cause the white picture that I'm seeing. Possibly the supply voltage is too low. Does anybody have a datasheet for this IC? I haven't been able to find one.

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                          • Nicktronic
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                            Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                            I took the following measurements of the VCOM signal converter;

                            left side ribbon cable connected, displaying like the picture in post #1, after the high temp run up as mentioned in post #6

                            pin 1 - 244mV
                            pin 2 - 244mV
                            pin 3 - 6.69V
                            pin 4 - gnd
                            pin 5 - 6.69V
                            pin 6 - 3.5V
                            pin 7 - 3.5V
                            pin 8 - 15.84V

                            right side ribbon cable connected, displaying like the picture in post #1, after the high temp run up as mentioned in post #6

                            pin 1 - 268mV
                            pin 2 - 268mV
                            pin 3 - 6.69V
                            pin 4 - gnd
                            pin 5 - 6.69V
                            pin 6 - 3.4V
                            pin 7 - 3.4V
                            pin 8 - 15.8V

                            Both ribbon cables connected

                            0V all pins

                            I can't find any information on this IC, see picture (same as post #6)
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                            • Diah
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                              • Feb 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                              Originally posted by lotas
                              What is this SPI NOR Flash Dual I / O, this is a VCOM signal converter.
                              the main talking are on Data Freq. i don't know what kind of LCD build in this set IPS / VA or TN !!

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                              • Nicktronic
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                                #16
                                Re: RCA RWOSU7047 Distorted picture

                                Most likely the panel causing my issue, but the TV got covered under warranty.

                                Thanks for the help

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