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    Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

    Another power supply to play with, this time something that looks much better than the I-Micro units I have been blowing up! This is a Silver Stone SST-ST60F rated for 600 watts. Opened the case and first thing I found was a ADDA sleeved fan stuck. Next, I found six Teapo capacitors bulging. All six were Teapo SC series 2200 uF/16 volt capacitors. All six measured capacitance 24 uF to 57 uF. esr on all six measured 1.9 to 2.9. Definitely bad. Size is D10 L32. Only thing I found for replacement was Nippon Chemicon KYB series. Also found some Rubycons that might work. So what do you think?
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    #2
    Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

    Another Death Adda victim. It's definitely worth fixing, though. If you gave it a full re-cap and gave the fan some proper lubrication, it would be a decent enough PSU.
    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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      #3
      Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

      OEM = Enhance?

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        #4
        Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

        why the tape around the primary cap? strange thing to do.

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          #5
          Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

          Originally posted by goodpsusearch View Post
          OEM = Enhance?
          In thinking either them or Seventeam. I'm probably learning more towards Enhance, though, as the soldering doesn't look messy enough for Seventeam
          I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

          No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

          Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

          Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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            #6
            Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

            Sure it's not Impervio?

            That heatsink looks a lot like it could be from them...
            Last edited by Stefan Payne; 08-09-2015, 07:52 AM.

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              #7
              Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

              uu, wait a moment...
              That thing has pretty much the same PCB Layout as my ST-65ZF, just a different set of heatsinks...

              So it's definately NOT Impervio as I mentioned earlier.

              It is made by Enhance...
              And a Link for some pics of the ST-65ZF...

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                #8
                Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                Enhance for sure.

                Do you have an O-scope everell?
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                  #9
                  Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                  Yah. The AC wires would have given it away for sure.
                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                  No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                  Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                  Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                    #10
                    Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                    Be careful with that double sided PCB, they are a pain and easy to damage. I wonder what is the brand of that primary cap and if it is 105 rated?

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                      #11
                      Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                      The primary cap doesn't really matter. Well, with a shitty line Voltage it may matter a little.

                      But 105°C or 85°C doesn't really matter especially when it's rather far from hot components and gets great airflow - as is the case here. So the Primary capacitor should be one of the last things to fail - exept it had to take some overvoltage...

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                        #12
                        Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                        You read that JG's statement about shit CrapXons going bad too, have learned nothing from that?
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                          #13
                          Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                          Only in US of A...
                          He didn't say anything about 230VAC. And I don't really hear anyhting about exploding primarys...

                          It's also not so easy because it also depends on how the PFC stage works (how much it stresses the cap), how it reacts to surges, how high the voltage is...

                          He did go for a jananese one, but he didn't say anything about what the problem really was...
                          There are 2 possibilitys:
                          a) the PFC of that unit (AFAIR Corsair CX) stressed the cap (unneccessarily) in 110V enviroment. (I know that the caps are fare less stressed in 230VAC. Some say the lifetime doubles with the voltage).
                          b) piss poor line quality -> many surges, cap didn't like it and blew. The japanese are just a little more voltage tolerant...

                          So in the end, the question remaining is:
                          Would a higher voltage cap (ie 450V instead of 400V) have also solved the problem?

                          AFAIR he mentioned that was a US only problem...

                          Oh and by the way:
                          Both my NMB PSUs use 85°C caps.

                          In the end, you don't want a japanese primary with JunFu secondarys.
                          You want something consistant. Like all Teapo instead...

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                            #14
                            Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                            Yes higher voltage would have solved but would be too big. You did not read it thoroughly, admit it man!

                            I would OFC prefere all quality caps which are not only japanese. Samxon makes nice RS or GT too.
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                              #15
                              Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                              The new output capacitors have arrived from Digikey and have been installed. I applied power to the power supply - no bang. The 5vsb measured 5.11 volts. Great start. Now all I have to do is locate some modular cables. Can't do anything more without them.
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                                #16
                                Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                                What did you buy?

                                Those modular connectors look basically like the same as on the other side of the cables normally attached. So you can make one cable from two desoldered ones.
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                                  Originally posted by Behemot View Post
                                  Yes higher voltage would have solved but would be too big. You did not read it thoroughly, admit it man!

                                  I would OFC prefere all quality caps which are not only japanese. Samxon makes nice RS or GT too.
                                  No need to be insulting, man :P

                                  And that proves that there was a problem with the design and not neccessarily with the cap.

                                  If you misuse something you can not expect it to work reliable...
                                  You may get away with it sometimes but that's not what you may want...

                                  And originally there was a Samxon LP series cap (with 85°C) and 180uF with the 430W unit.
                                  http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...tory3&reid=214

                                  And that a 450V model would not fit is just not true...
                                  I have 330uF Samxon LP one with 330uF in a DELL PSU (Delta DPS460DB).

                                  According to the datasheets the LP Series with 400V and 180uF has a can size of 22 x 40 (probably the one used), 25x30 and 30x25 mm.
                                  The 450WV one is 5mm higher. So if I take a look at the area the cap was used, there is more than enogh space on the 430W version.

                                  The 330uF Version in my DELL PSU seems to be a 30x45mm - and the fan is directly over it...

                                  So I don't belive that the 450WV one would not fit.
                                  Because Samxon has those ones in different diametres!

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                                    Nice PSU. I'm guessing if all the other caps are Teapo, then so is the primary cap. Either that, or the brand is so bad that they did the capacitor equivalent of putting a bag over an ugly person's face

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                                      Originally posted by Behemot View Post
                                      Do you have an O-scope everell?
                                      Yes
                                      Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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                                        #20
                                        Re: Silver Stone SST-ST60F 600 watts

                                        Oh and by the way:
                                        Why use a 400V NCC instead of the 'correct one' (420V or 450V)??

                                        Because it can be cheaper!

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