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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #1

    Big Ass Power Brick

    I've had this power brick around for a while but never got around to posting it. Came from a Clevo laptop. 20 volts, 5 amps. That's 100W. Certainly not your average laptop brick.

    It has a solid aluminum chassis (that a lot of stuff is screwed or clamped to). It has a copper top. It has a "Be careful! May become hot" sticker. It even has thermal pads for the transformers. Heck, even the line filter gets a pad! All Rubycon caps. It works correctly, but it hisses quite angrily. Someone didn't get their control theory right. But it looks like a decent candidate for an adjustable supply.

    There are three ferrite cores. The last one next to the output connector isn't a transformer, it's the output inductor, the one in the middle is the main switching transformer, but i'm not yet sure what the first one does. Could be an Active PFC stage. For a 100W supply, that's crazy.

    The 9v battery in the first pic is to make you an idea of the scale. More pics coming tomorrow... as a sneak peek i will tell you this uses 2x MBR20100CT in parallel for output rectifiers. Overkill. Me like.

    Edit: The hissing stops once it is loaded up with 1A or more. On lower loads it hisses and whines to various degrees. Well, it was made to power a beefy laptop after all. Anyway. Does 5.9A without shutting down, voltage is in spec at exactly 20.0v, no load voltage = 20.8v. Haven't checked ripple levels yet, will do tomorrow. And we'll see how much more it can deliver.
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    Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 04-26-2011, 03:14 PM.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!
  • Scenic
    o.O
    • Sep 2007
    • 2642
    • Germany

    #2
    Re: Big Ass Power Brick

    ha!
    got something similar, but partway disassembled because of a infineon "coolMOS" 20N60C3 which failed and overheated far enough that the metal tab of the TO220 package turned purple

    JVC PSU brick rated for 24V 5A (120W). All caps are nichicon.
    main filter cap is a 420V 180uF beast, output caps are 3x KZE 35V 560uF
    primary side heatsink and the output wire are missing in those pics. still have them though.

    http://bambooz.pytalhost.net/badcaps/jvc_psu/1.jpg
    http://bambooz.pytalhost.net/badcaps/jvc_psu/2.jpg
    http://bambooz.pytalhost.net/badcaps/jvc_psu/3.jpg
    http://bambooz.pytalhost.net/badcaps/jvc_psu/4.jpg

    Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
    Came from a Clevo laptop. 20 volts, 5 amps. That's 100W. Certainly not your average laptop brick.
    i bet this came from one of their Pentium 4 junkers or something

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    • 370forlife
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      • Aug 2008
      • 3112
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Big Ass Power Brick

      My friend has a new alienware laptop with a core2quad and 2 GTX260M's. It has a 180W Flextronics brick. Thing is huge and weighs a good 3-4lbs.

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
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        Re: Big Ass Power Brick

        Originally posted by Scenic
        i bet this came from one of their Pentium 4 junkers or something
        Yup... but it was a Celery D with a SiS video chipset. Not sure how THAT would need 100W. Btw, did a quick check of the ripple output. 100mV @ 1A, 120mV @ 5.9A, this thing is fairly steady. Sure, those numbers aren't stellar, but this is 20v not 12v, the output caps are just 2x 1000uF 25v IIRC, and there's no pi filter. Given those parameters this is a pretty good result. And altho this brick is fairly cramped, there's room for bigger output caps.

        Originally posted by 370forlife
        My friend has a new alienware laptop with a core2quad and 2 GTX260M's. It has a 180W Flextronics brick. Thing is huge and weighs a good 3-4lbs.
        What screen size is the laptop? Unless it's at least 18"... they either reinvented physics or the thing runs past the boiling point of water.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
        A working TV? How boring!

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        • 370forlife
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          • Aug 2008
          • 3112
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          #5
          Re: Big Ass Power Brick

          It has a 17" screen I do believe. It has this array of 4 40x40mm fans in the back that cool the GPU's and a real screamer that cools the cpu. It still gets hot, hot enough to make it uncomfortable to keep on your lap. It runs off the GPUs when plugged in, when on battery it defaults to the intel integraded graphics but can be forced to to use the GTX's with heavily decreased battery life.

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          • Scenic
            o.O
            • Sep 2007
            • 2642
            • Germany

            #6
            Re: Big Ass Power Brick

            i'm kinda wondering why they even bothered to put a battery in it with those specs

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            • 370forlife
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              • Aug 2008
              • 3112
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              Re: Big Ass Power Brick

              Originally posted by 370forlife
              It has a 17" screen I do believe. It has this array of 4 40x40mm fans in the back that cool the GPU's and a real screamer that cools the cpu. It still gets hot, hot enough to make it uncomfortable to keep on your lap. It runs off the GPUs when plugged in, when on battery it defaults to the intel integraded graphics but can be forced to to use the GTX's with heavily decreased battery life.
              This is wrong. I was thinking of my machine tool teacher's dell precision laptop.

              This laptop is a Alienware M17X with a QX9300 for a processor. The GPU's are cooled by normal blower fans like you would see on a laptop usually. Lots of fins though.

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              • Krankshaft
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2007
                • 2328
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Big Ass Power Brick

                Alienware went down the tubes the instant Dell bought them they used to be great rigs.

                20 volts is a bit odd seeing as nothing on the mobo needs it providing 12 volts would have made more sense. Less heat from the on board regulators.

                I'm curious as to who that PSU was made for based on the pics it's a top quality unit.

                You certainly won't find build quality like that fresh off the boat from China.
                Last edited by Krankshaft; 04-26-2011, 06:35 PM.
                Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                • delaware74b
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 628
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Big Ass Power Brick

                  It probable needs the 20 volts to charge the battery pack. Heck, my little Acer Aspire 1410 netbook use 19 volts, most of which is the charging circuits.
                  Stupidity should be a crime, especially for drivers. I have NO patience for them.

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                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                    Re: Big Ass Power Brick

                    Originally posted by Krankshaft
                    I'm curious as to who that PSU was made for based on the pics it's a top quality unit.

                    You certainly won't find build quality like that fresh off the boat from China.
                    Well, the lappy's keyboard was in Japanese. I guess the Japs are quite strict on what they import.
                    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                    A working TV? How boring!

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