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  • Andreasbest
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2014
    • 1151
    • Hellas ( Greece )

    #1

    HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

    Hi!
    Received a HP laptop today with small liquid damage and cleaned it up with isopropylene alcohol.

    I noticed that PU2 ( RT8243AZQW ) gets extremely hot indicating a shortcircuit, should i replace it right away OR should i check something else first that perhaps causes the short and PU2 is good?
    Schematics attached.

    Thank you!
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  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
    • 13994
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

    If the part is heating up more than normal then there is a fault.

    Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

    Check the resistance to ground of each output voltage rails on this component.

    Post all measurements. If a reading is very low, then need to locate the reason. Perhaps this part is now defective from this event.

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    • Andreasbest
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      • Aug 2014
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      #3
      Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

      I remove the PU2 and measure resistance to all pins, all look fine with high resistances to GND 10's ok kΩ except pin 16 that is only 6Ω.
      Is that normal?

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      • mon2
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        • Dec 2019
        • 13994
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

        No - that is a very low resistance.

        Remove the capacitor @ PC213 and measure again.

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        • Andreasbest
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          • Aug 2014
          • 1151
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          #5
          Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

          There is no boardview available so i removed the capacitor that is connected next to pin 16.
          Short remains on both sides.
          Uploading picture before and after.
          Attached Files

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          • mon2
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            • Dec 2019
            • 13994
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            #6
            Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

            Then remove diode PD202 - make a note of the polarity on the diode for replacement.

            Check again.

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            • Andreasbest
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              • Aug 2014
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              #7
              Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

              Could please tag it? I can't find it.

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
                • 13994
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                Post a clear pic of the area - should be black in color and with a band (white stripe) on it.

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                • Andreasbest
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                  • Aug 2014
                  • 1151
                  • Hellas ( Greece )

                  #9
                  Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                  Found it and desolder it, 7Ω remain on pin 16

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                  • Andreasbest
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1151
                    • Hellas ( Greece )

                    #10
                    Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                    Uploadding pictures of the liquid damaged area, perhaps theey can give us a clue before voltage injecting : )
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                    • Andreasbest
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                      • Aug 2014
                      • 1151
                      • Hellas ( Greece )

                      #11
                      Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                      I resolder both the cap and the diode and now the resistance is 30Ω
                      How is that possible?

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                      • Andreasbest
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                        • Aug 2014
                        • 1151
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                        #12
                        Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                        Plus multimeter doesn't indicate any connection between PD202 and PC213

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                        • mon2
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                          • Dec 2019
                          • 13994
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                          #13
                          Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                          Wait! My bad - have too many open Windows.

                          Let us back track. Keep note of each part that is being removed so you can replace it back. The ECE is not the area of interest.

                          Pin #16 of PU2 is linked to a mosfet device @ PQ8. It should be 8 pins.

                          Remove this dual mosfet @ PQ8 and test the resistance again on pin # 16.

                          Update:

                          In my earlier review - searched for 'PU2' and stopped @ 'PU201' and referenced the pin #16 = REGN pin on it. My apologies.
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                          Last edited by mon2; 09-13-2022, 09:13 AM.

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                          • Andreasbest
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                            • Aug 2014
                            • 1151
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                            #14
                            Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                            "In my earlier review - searched for 'PU2' and stopped @ 'PU201' and referenced the pin #16 = REGN pin on it. My apologies."

                            Sorry but i don't got it, should i procced as you told me with PQ8 or not?

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                            • mon2
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                              • Dec 2019
                              • 13994
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                              #15
                              Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                              Yes - remove PQ8 (8 pin device). Take a picture of the topside for the replacement / pin # 1 orientation.

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                              • Andreasbest
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                                • Aug 2014
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                                #16
                                Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                                With PQ8 removed i get 68Ω

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                                • mon2
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                                  • Dec 2019
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                                  #17
                                  Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                                  Let me understand where we are at...

                                  you have PQ8 removed ?
                                  you have PU2 removed ?


                                  but you are measuring 68 ohms to ground on pin #16 of the PU2 pcb pad ?

                                  This is not a good reading. The reading should be OL since there is nothing on pin # 16 of PU2 if it is removed.

                                  Can you confirm the details ?

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                                  • Andreasbest
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                                    • Aug 2014
                                    • 1151
                                    • Hellas ( Greece )

                                    #18
                                    Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                                    Exactly.
                                    PQ8 and PU2 removed now, resistance between pin 16 and GND = 64Ω

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                                    • mon2
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                                      • Dec 2019
                                      • 13994
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                                      #19
                                      Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                                      That does not sound right - is the posted schematic 100% for your laptop ?

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                                      • Andreasbest
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                                        • Aug 2014
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                                        • Hellas ( Greece )

                                        #20
                                        Re: HP 15-ac126nv no power at all

                                        Just found the mistake
                                        I count the pins clockwise while they are counter clockwise like usual.
                                        I'm terribly sorry for this.

                                        The correct pin is 15, not 16 : (
                                        Last edited by Andreasbest; 09-13-2022, 09:59 AM.

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