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  • Jokerx84
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 52
    • Hungary

    #1

    Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

    Hi!
    Lenovo V110-15IAP (LV114A_MB 15270-1) It doesn't turn on, it doesn't charge, only the charging LED flashes orange!

    Does anyone know what the problem could be?
  • Stevedb
    Stevedb
    • Feb 2018
    • 624
    • Belgium

    #2
    Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

    No we do not have a glass bol to see. Take hd pictures off the bord front and back , and do measurements from all grey coils and the current sensor, voltage and resistor mode at 200 ohms without power , cmos battery , wifi card , mrmory etc...

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    • lapfix
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      • Mar 2020
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      • my workshop

      #3
      Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

      Try with another charger, try without battery connected ...than do what stevedb ask for

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      • Jokerx84
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        • Sep 2017
        • 52
        • Hungary

        #4
        Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

        Originally posted by Stevedb
        No we do not have a glass bol to see. Take hd pictures off the bord front and back , and do measurements from all grey coils and the current sensor, voltage and resistor mode at 200 ohms without power , cmos battery , wifi card , mrmory etc...
        I measured this
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        • mon2
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          • Dec 2019
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          #5
          Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

          You have 2 x DC-in mosfets on this logic board.

          Using the resistance mode, check the mosfet condition of each.

          Remove all power / no battery.

          Meter in resistance mode.

          Check the resistance across the mosfet pins to check if it is defective.

          Source (1-2-3) & Drain (5-6-7-8)
          Source (1-2-3) & Gate (4)
          Gate (4) & Drain (5-6-7-8)

          Post the above readings (and the meter scale) for PU4401 and then again for the next mosfet PU4402 that follows. A low reading = defective mosfet.


          reference reading (see the resistance table):
          http://electronicsbeliever.com/how-t...0good%20MOSFET.
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          • mcplslg123
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            • Jun 2015
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            • india

            #6
            Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

            Voltage on S-D-G pins of first 2 dc-in mosfets also.

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            • Jokerx84
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              • Sep 2017
              • 52
              • Hungary

              #7
              Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

              Originally posted by mcplslg123
              voltage on s-d-g pins of first 2 dc-in mosfets also.
              pu4401
              s=20.1v
              g=6.7v
              d=20.1v

              pu4402
              s=20.1v
              g=20.1v
              d=2.7v

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
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                #8
                Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                Did you miss reading post #5 ?

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                • Jokerx84
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 52
                  • Hungary

                  #9
                  Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                  Originally posted by mon2
                  You have 2 x DC-in mosfets on this logic board.

                  Using the resistance mode, check the mosfet condition of each.

                  Remove all power / no battery.

                  Meter in resistance mode.

                  Check the resistance across the mosfet pins to check if it is defective.

                  Source (1-2-3) & Drain (5-6-7-8)
                  Source (1-2-3) & Gate (4)
                  Gate (4) & Drain (5-6-7-8)

                  Post the above readings (and the meter scale) for PU4401 and then again for the next mosfet PU4402 that follows. A low reading = defective mosfet.


                  reference reading (see the resistance table):
                  http://electronicsbeliever.com/how-t...0good%20MOSFET.
                  Sorry!

                  PU4401
                  PU4402
                  Source (1-2-3) & Drain (5-6-7-8)= 1.1Mohm
                  Source (1-2-3) & Gate (4)=1.1Mohm
                  Gate (4) & Drain (5-6-7-8)=1.2Mohm

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                  • mon2
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                    • Dec 2019
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                    #10
                    Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                    The resistance readings are the same for BOTH mosfets ?

                    If yes, the mosfets are fine. Will review the voltages once at the office but the GATE voltage of PU4402 is a suspect.

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                    • mon2
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                      • Dec 2019
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                      #11
                      Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                      PU4402 = battery mosfet so it is correct that PU4402 (P-channel) will remain OFF with the missing battery using the posted gate voltage. Gate has to be more negative than the SOURCE voltage to turn this mosfet ON.

                      Q: Do you have the battery installed on this unit ? Believe that you do not but there is a d=2.7v reading ?

                      Can you confirm this ?

                      Next, remove all power -> perform the same resistance checks on the battery charging mosfets @ PU4403 & PU4405. Post the resistance values & scale used on your meter.
                      Last edited by mon2; 07-11-2022, 08:40 AM.

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                      • Jokerx84
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 52
                        • Hungary

                        #12
                        Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                        Originally posted by mon2
                        PU4402 = battery mosfet so it is correct that PU4402 (P-channel) will remain OFF with the missing battery using the posted gate voltage. Gate has to be more negative than the SOURCE voltage to turn this mosfet ON.

                        Q: Do you have the battery installed on this unit ? Believe that you do not but there is a d=2.7v reading ?

                        Can you confirm this ?

                        Next, remove all power -> perform the same resistance checks on the battery charging mosfets @ PU4403 & PU4405. Post the resistance values & scale used on your meter.
                        sorry I didn't have time
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                        • mon2
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                          #13
                          Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                          Do you have the SAME resistance readings on both of the battery charging mosfets ?

                          To confirm again, if you remove the BATTERY - you still read ~2v7 on the battery connector?

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                          • Jokerx84
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                            • Sep 2017
                            • 52
                            • Hungary

                            #14
                            Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                            Originally posted by mon2
                            Do you have the SAME resistance readings on both of the battery charging mosfets ?

                            To confirm again, if you remove the BATTERY - you still read ~2v7 on the battery connector?
                            yes

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                            • mon2
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                              • Dec 2019
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                              #15
                              Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                              measure the voltage on S-D-G pins of the battery charge mosfets.

                              Are the voltages the same if the battery is removed? If the battery is installed?

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                              • Jokerx84
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                                • Sep 2017
                                • 52
                                • Hungary

                                #16
                                Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                                same voltage with and without accumulator

                                pu4401
                                s=20.1v
                                g=6.7v
                                d=20.1v

                                pu4402
                                s=20.1v
                                g=20.1v
                                d=2.7v

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                                • mon2
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                                  • Dec 2019
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                                  There are 2 more mosfets that are used to charge the battery.

                                  Can you post their voltages on each pin and the PQ label for each?

                                  Do not have the schematic at this time to check their location.

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                                  • Jokerx84
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                                    • Sep 2017
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                                    • Hungary

                                    #18
                                    Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                                    SiS412DN PU4403 and PU4405

                                    PU4403
                                    S=2.7V
                                    D=20.3V
                                    G=2.7V

                                    PU4405
                                    S=0V
                                    D=0V
                                    G=2.7V

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                                    • mon2
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                                      Remove all power. Check the resistance (PU4403 and PU4405) of these same mosfets as before.

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                                      • Jokerx84
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                                        • Sep 2017
                                        • 52
                                        • Hungary

                                        #20
                                        Re: Lenovo V110-15IAP It won't turn on, it won't charge

                                        PU4403
                                        PU4405
                                        Forrás (1-2-3) & Lefolyó (5-6-7-8) = 1 Mohm
                                        Forrás (1-2-3) & Kapu (4) = 1 Mohm
                                        Kapu (4) & Lefolyó (5-6) -7-8) = 1 Mohm

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