PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Fidel Martinez
    New Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 7
    • México

    #1

    PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

    Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

    Problem:

    - Doesn't react to power button and doesn't charge battery

    - The PU401 SY8208BQNC_QFN10_3X3 gets extremely hot when connecting
    the power adapter.

    Compal circuits show:

    a SY8208DQNC_QFN10_3X3 on page 38 (PU601)

    (an adjustable step-down switchmode converter with a feedback reference voltage of 0.6V)

    and

    a SY8208BQNC_QFN10_3X3 on page 35 (PU401)

    (appears to be a fixed 3V converter)

    I have replaced the PU401 IC and the problem persists and apparently the PU601 IC is also damaged.

    Is it possible to use -for testing- a SY8208BQNC_QFN10_3X3 (+3VLP) as a replacement for SY8208DQNC_QFN10_3X3 (+3VALW) ???

    Could you tell me how to find the cause of the PU401 regulator problem?

    Greetings to All !!!
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Fidel Martinez; 01-09-2021, 08:21 PM.
  • Fidel Martinez
    New Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 7
    • México

    #2
    Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

    Could you tell me the diferece between the 2 versions mentioned the SY8208 IC?

    SY8208DQNC (an adjustable step-down switchmode converter with a feedback
    reference voltage of 0.6V) +3VALW
    and
    SY8208BQNC (a fixed 3V converter) +3VLP

    Comment

    • Fidel Martinez
      New Member
      • Jan 2021
      • 7
      • México

      #3
      Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

      I think PU401 will heat up if it's trying to supply too much current due to a short to ground on PU601 +3VALW (or +3VL)

      Comment

      • piernov
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2016
        • 4437
        • France

        #4
        Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

        SY8208A/B/C/D not interchangeable.
        Measure exact resistance to ground on +3VLP and +3VALW.
        OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

        Comment

        • Fidel Martinez
          New Member
          • Jan 2021
          • 7
          • México

          #5
          Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

          The PU401 SY8208BQNC_QFN10_3X3 gets extremely hot when connecting only
          the power adapter without pressing the power button.

          I have replaced the PU401 IC again and the problem persist.

          Could you tell me how to find the cause of the PU401 regulator problem?

          Greetings to All !!!

          Comment

          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 14334
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

            1) are the replacement pu401 regulators known to be good parts?

            2) is the part being soldered properly and with pin #1 in the right orientation?

            3) the regulators are very low current at 150mA support. It should not heat up under normal conditions.

            Consider to desolder the device at pu401 and measure the vin voltage. Then power down and use resistance mode to confirm the other pins on this part are not shorting. Do this check on the pcb pads without the ic soldered. Some spec is being violated.

            Comment

            • mcplslg123
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jun 2015
              • 7262
              • india

              #7
              Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

              Open jumper PJ401 and see if PU401 still becomes hot.

              Comment

              • Fidel Martinez
                New Member
                • Jan 2021
                • 7
                • México

                #8
                Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

                Originally posted by mcplslg123
                Open jumper PJ401 and see if PU401 still becomes hot.
                Jumpers are used to open, close or bypass part of the electrical circuit,
                what will happen if I open the PJ401?




                Regards

                Comment

                • mon2
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 14334
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

                  PJ401 is the bridge to connect PU401 output voltage rail to the rest of the logic board.

                  By removing this solder blob (jumper), you are isolating the +3vALW rail from the load that is downstream.

                  In summary, you will then be able to confirm if the voltage rail is being generated properly by PU401.

                  Remove the blob and

                  1) check if PU401 still gets hot. If it does, then PU401 circuit needs to be inspected. Has PU401 been worked on ? Maybe not soldered properly ? Damaged and needs to be replaced ?

                  2) if PU401 does not get hot - check the voltage on pin # 1 (PJ401). Confirm that it is +3V.
                  Attached Files

                  Comment

                  • Fidel Martinez
                    New Member
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7
                    • México

                    #10
                    Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

                    Originally posted by mcplslg123
                    Open jumper PJ401 and see if PU401 still becomes hot.
                    what will happen if I open the PJ401?

                    Comment

                    • mcplslg123
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 7262
                      • india

                      #11
                      Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

                      @fidel, mon2 has already answered what you are questioning. I cant describe more and its upto you to follow suggestions or not. We as a community are just trying to help and i appreciate to cross check whether the advice is good or not as at times we can also be wrong.

                      Comment

                      • Karthik Jothi
                        New Member
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1
                        • India

                        #12
                        Re: PU401 gets extremely hot on Motherboard la-9532p_r1.0

                        Is this issue resolved?

                        Comment

                        • Rolandas
                          New Member
                          • Apr 2024
                          • 2
                          • Norvegija

                          #13
                          Hi
                          I have the same problem, the PU 401 is hot, there is a short circuit somewhere. Can you help me find what's wrong?😊

                          Comment

                          • mon2
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 14334
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Ragnarok??

                            If anything is getting (Gal Gadot) hot and bothered, double check the soldering - double check the pin # 1 orientation against the original. A part will also heat up if the component is being operated beyond the rated specs - for example, too high of a load on the downstream / consumer side of the mosfet / regulator. You can check for the excessive loading by removing all power / no battery, meter in resistance mode (not diode mode) and checking the resistance to ground on the same downstream rail(s).

                            Review the schematic to locate the output pins and check each resistance to ground. Post all measurements.

                            Comment

                            Related Topics

                            Collapse

                            • klynstronic
                              PU401, MOTHERBOARD DA0G3DMBCE0 REV:E
                              by klynstronic
                              Hi Hi.
                              Can you help me? The boardview of the DA0G3DMBCE0 REV:E motherboard says that the PU401 IC is a MP86903C...however this is a TQFN21. The PU401 is a TQFN13 and the MP86901-AGQT-Z IC is TQFN13.
                              Am I correct? Or is it a different IC?
                              I would appreciate an answer.
                              Regards.
                              ​...
                              Starts
                              01-12-2025
                              Ends
                              01-13-2025
                              01-13-2025, 06:42 AM
                            • glovecaps
                              Asus ROG Strix Scar G533qm with a G733qm Motherboard, can I modify the Bios to accept G533 Bios
                              by glovecaps
                              Hello,

                              I have a Asus ROG Strix Scar 15 (G533QM) that had a dead motherboard (Graphics card dead) and after trying to fix the motherboard with no success, I bit the bullet on a sale for a new motherboard. I ordered a motherboard for the 15 inch model which is the one that I have, and when the motherboard arrived it wasn't for a little while that I saw it was from the 17 inch model.

                              My question is, can I update the Bios on this G733 motherboard to a G533 Bios.

                              The reason for wanting to do this is that the keyboard isn't working as it should, and I think this...
                              11-25-2024, 04:23 PM
                            • Docus
                              Legion Y540 17irh motherboard issue ( need help to know how to diagnose my motherboard)
                              by Docus
                              Hi everyone 😀,

                              I'm here today to ask for help with repairing the motherboard of a Lenovo Legion Y540 17IRH.

                              To give you some context, I'm passionate about computer repair so much so that I've invested in a lot of tools and started practicing on dead and old hardware. I've been learning how to solder and desolder components, mostly focusing on phone repairs.

                              Recently, I bought a broken Lenovo Legion Y540 17IRH for just €150, and there are two main reasons why I made this purchase:
                              1. I already own the exact same model, but its plastic chassis is badly damaged.
                              ...
                              06-10-2025, 04:24 PM
                            • Archimedes
                              HP Envy 17-3290NR 3D Blank Screen - motherboard Louis V1.1 6050A2489901
                              by Archimedes
                              Subject is a blank screen issue in HP Envy 17-3290NR 3D version laptop with motherboard Louis V1.1 6050A2489901 MB-A02. Production year is 2012. This one is a 2nd hand motherboard which I could use it for few months only. Suddenly no output from the internal display and also no signal from HDMI port then Windows out of order after few boots.

                              Caps lock working normally and no HP's caps-lock warning blinks. Making a hard reset and replacing the RAM sticks or using different slots didn't help.

                              Fans are spinning. Blindly could install windows11 and got the device manager...
                              07-30-2024, 05:14 PM
                            • momaka
                              ASUS P5GC-MX motherboard recap
                              by momaka
                              Here’s another motherboard that needed a full recap: an ASUS P5GC-MX.
                              This one was gifted to me some years ago by user Pentium 4, along with a few other goodies. It actually came in working order with no bulging or leaking caps. However, I noted there were United Chemicon KZG caps everywhere on the motherboard. The CPU VRM output (CPU V_core) was the only exception: it had only 2x KZG. The rest was 6x UCC TMV 4V 680 uF caps… which aren’t any good news either.

                              So here is what the motherboard looked like with its original caps:


                              CPU VRM area up close…...
                              01-27-2021, 11:59 PM
                            • Loading...
                            • No more items.
                            Working...