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  • mnciks11
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2019
    • 345
    • south Africa

    #1

    Strange behavior on the proline laptop

    Hello my lovely brothers

    I'm facing a strange behavior here, the laptop comes up and quickly shut down.

    When i remove the ram it cones on and the green light stays and doesn't shut down, I changed the ram and inserted another ram it still doing the same thing.

    I checked the ram power supply there is no short to ground

    Measurements are:
    -Ram power supply = 1.5v
    -Cpu power supply = 0.0v

    Motherboard number it = 6-71-W24Z0-D02A I dont have the schematic
  • SMDFlea
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2018
    • 20682
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

    Schematic. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mdu...uNfbbodo-/view
    Bios. https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/W2xCZ/
    Last edited by SMDFlea; 12-05-2019, 03:21 AM.
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    • mnciks11
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Aug 2019
      • 345
      • south Africa

      #3
      Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

      Thank you so much brother i will update you all if I managed to solve this

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      • mnciks11
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Aug 2019
        • 345
        • south Africa

        #4
        Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

        Hello guys please clue me up here on this machine, here my finds so far

        I Have 1.11v on the vcore, and the gate on one of the mosfets for vcore power supply is 0.007 when compared to ground.

        One more thing i have 0v on the gfx core

        The laptop keeps on turning On and quickly shuts down after pressing the power button


        Any clue guys, why the value of the gate is so low if compared to ground? Is this normal
        Attached Files

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        • KvnTM
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2018
          • 434
          • Germany

          #5
          Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

          Originally posted by mnciks11
          Hello guys please clue me up here on this machine, here my finds so far

          I Have 1.11v on the vcore, and the gate on one of the mosfets for vcore power supply is 0.007 when compared to ground.

          One more thing i have 0v on the gfx core

          The laptop keeps on turning On and quickly shuts down after pressing the power button


          Any clue guys, why the value of the gate is so low if compared to ground? Is this normal
          The switching on those fets is really fast and your meter probably isn't picking it up correctly. Get a scope if you have one and look at it.

          0v on gfx core is most likely your problem. Whats the resistance of gfx core to gnd?

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          • mnciks11
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Aug 2019
            • 345
            • south Africa

            #6
            Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

            Originally posted by KvnTM
            The switching on those fets is really fast and your meter probably isn't picking it up correctly. Get a scope if you have one and look at it.

            0v on gfx core is most likely your problem. Whats the resistance of gfx core to gnd?
            It 004 using continuity mode
            Attached Files

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            • KvnTM
              Badcaps Veteran
              • May 2018
              • 434
              • Germany

              #7
              Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

              Originally posted by mnciks11
              It 004 using continuity mode
              Resistance please.

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              • mnciks11
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Aug 2019
                • 345
                • south Africa

                #8
                Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                Originally posted by KvnTM
                Resistance please.
                How?

                What range should i set on my multimeter please help
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                • mcplslg123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 7262
                  • india

                  #9
                  Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                  Originally posted by mnciks11
                  How?

                  What range should i set on my multimeter please help
                  200 ohms

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                  • mnciks11
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Aug 2019
                    • 345
                    • south Africa

                    #10
                    Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                    Originally posted by mcplslg123
                    200 ohms
                    It 04.8

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                    • KvnTM
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • May 2018
                      • 434
                      • Germany

                      #11
                      Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                      Originally posted by mnciks11
                      It 04.8
                      Thats fine.
                      What do you get on Pin 4 (VR_EN) of PU1?
                      Please measure while powering the board. It should go high when the board turns on.

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                      • mnciks11
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Aug 2019
                        • 345
                        • south Africa

                        #12
                        Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                        Originally posted by KvnTM
                        Thats fine.
                        What do you get on Pin 4 (VR_EN) of PU1?
                        Please measure while powering the board. It should go high when the board turns on.
                        Yes i did, i get 3.25v

                        The board is still doing the same thing, powers on and quickly goes off

                        I checked all the power supplies, they are all okay, 5v is okay, ram volts is okay i have 1.5v on the ram chip and coil, pch power supply is okay .

                        If i remove the ram it powers on and never shut down but obvious no display and doesn't post

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                        • mnciks11
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Aug 2019
                          • 345
                          • south Africa

                          #13
                          Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                          Can i have the list of things to check so that in feature i will know what to check guys and give you proper information.

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                          • KvnTM
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • May 2018
                            • 434
                            • Germany

                            #14
                            Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                            Originally posted by mnciks11
                            Yes i did, i get 3.25v

                            The board is still doing the same thing, powers on and quickly goes off

                            I checked all the power supplies, they are all okay, 5v is okay, ram volts is okay i have 1.5v on the ram chip and coil, pch power supply is okay .

                            If i remove the ram it powers on and never shut down but obvious no display and doesn't post
                            Now check
                            Gate & Drain voltage on PQ108, PQ109
                            Gate voltage on PQ110, PQ111

                            Originally posted by mnciks11
                            Can i have the list of things to check so that in feature i will know what to check guys and give you proper information.
                            There is no universal guide for troubleshooting something. But usually you always check all power rails before doing anything else. That will give you a clue of what is going on.
                            Power rail missing? => Fix it.
                            All power rails present and everything should be ok but no post? => Bios or dead CPU

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                            • mcplslg123
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 7262
                              • india

                              #15
                              Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                              Going by my experience, your sio chip is bad. Replacing it will solve your problem.

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                              • mnciks11
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Aug 2019
                                • 345
                                • south Africa

                                #16
                                Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                                Originally posted by mcplslg123
                                Going by my experience, your sio chip is bad. Replacing it will solve your problem.
                                Thank you i have to find the chip and update you

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                                • mnciks11
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Aug 2019
                                  • 345
                                  • south Africa

                                  #17
                                  Re: Strange behavior on the proline laptop

                                  Originally posted by KvnTM
                                  Now check
                                  Gate & Drain voltage on PQ108, PQ109
                                  Gate voltage on PQ110, PQ111



                                  There is no universal guide for troubleshooting something. But usually you always check all power rails before doing anything else. That will give you a clue of what is going on.
                                  Power rail missing? => Fix it.
                                  All power rails present and everything should be ok but no post? => Bios or dead CPU
                                  All gates have 0V of PQ110, PQ111, PQ108,PQ109 i have 0v on their gates, the Switching mosfets do receive 19v but they don't switch, they are not being told to switch

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