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  • lorins_core
    BlackSmith
    • Dec 2012
    • 551
    • Philippines

    #1

    lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

    Hello to all.


    Unit Model: Lenovo Yoga2 13
    Mobo P/N: ZIVYO LA-A921P REV:2.0 2014-03-03


    Status: No Power w/ Voltage on Adapter Drop

    Action: First i dismantle the Laptop and Check the Mobo (Mother Board). Then i saw one capacitor Burn.

    Here is the Picture



    you see the red circle?
    identified it is a Capacitor,burn but I do not know its location part number...

    Action : 2nd I Remove this Capacitor then i checking and test using ohmmeter for resistance. Positive 0 Ohm (Shorted). Badcaps...

    Action: I check the area where the capacitor is connected. may there be any broken parts?i check for short using Ohmmeter. i plug the adapter
    result now the adapter is giving the correct voltage. but "No Power"

    Now I Used the Science Discovery hehehe (Tuklas Agham in Filipino language) hehehe
    Read the Schematic Diagram.

    I tracing the rails of 20V Start On DC in to Fuse PF101 to PL101 Have 20.4V then to PQ301 Drain= have 20.4 using Digi tester but Source and Gate 0V
    S= 0V?
    G= 0V?
    D = 20.4

    Here is the Picture




    Even The PQ303 Source, Gate and Drain. there no Voltage "0V"


    I need your Advice For that

    Other i Check the PQ301 and PQ303. i test - remove to PCB Negative for Shorted. both Mosfet are Good.
    also i change Both Mosfet No Luck .Still Same as Problem


    Again I need for Advice... Thanks
    Attached Files
  • Techtiger
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2014
    • 1602
    • france

    #2
    Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

    What are the Voltage PU301 1.4.5.6.20?
    Upload the Schematic
    Last edited by Techtiger; 01-13-2019, 07:34 AM.

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    • Techtiger
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2014
      • 1602
      • france

      #3
      Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

      ACFET & RBFET (PQ301 and PQ303) can be turned on the System by ACDRV pin 4 it should be higher than Drain

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      • on/off
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2016
        • 333
        • Indonesia

        #4
        Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

        Also should be checked PU301 pin 16 LDO REGN since acok signal tied with it.

        Maybe if that can flow with super slow motion VCC (pin 20)>>>ACDET (pin6)>>>REGN (pin16)>>>ACOK (pin5)>>>ACDRV (pin4)

        Make sure B+ not shorted.

        Originally posted by lorins_core
        Here is the Picture



        you see the red circle?
        identified it is a Capacitor,burn but I do not know its location part number...
        The shape seem 10uF/25V caps.

        Link HD image :
        https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...WhaVEtQVHhZV1k


        Note: Boardview for this lenovo current unavailable
        Last edited by on/off; 01-13-2019, 07:00 PM.

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        • lorins_core
          BlackSmith
          • Dec 2012
          • 551
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

          But I curious About This Part Of PQ301 and PQ303.

          In Actual Parts installed it is AON7430_PQ301 Same on PQ303.
          On Schema Diagram is ISMDV1526URH_PQ301 same on PQ303.

          anyway i think it is Same?


          Also I update. i check and trace the the PQ304_AO4407A has been open the Source to Drain?

          Action: Replace them same 4407A.

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          • Techtiger
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2014
            • 1602
            • france

            #6
            Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

            Originally posted by lorins_core
            But I curious About This Part Of PQ301 and PQ303.

            In Actual Parts installed it is AON7430_PQ301 Same on PQ303.
            On Schema Diagram is ISMDV1526URH_PQ301 same on PQ303.

            anyway i think it is Same?


            Also I update. i check and trace the the PQ304_AO4407A has been open the Source to Drain?

            Action: Replace them same 4407A.
            the 1st 2Mosfets are N-Channel if any short change them check Ohm with out power

            What are the Voltage PU301 1.2.3.4.5.6.12.16.20?
            Attached Files
            Last edited by Techtiger; 01-16-2019, 07:40 AM.

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            • lorins_core
              BlackSmith
              • Dec 2012
              • 551
              • Philippines

              #7
              Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

              Originally posted by techtiger
              the 1st 2Mosfets are N-Channel if any short change them check Ohm with out power

              What are the Voltage PU301 1.2.3.4.5.6.12.16.20?
              Here the result

              PU301
              Pin 1 = 0V
              Pin 2 = 0V
              Pin 3 = 0V
              Pin 4 = 0V
              Pin 5 = 0V
              Pin 6 = 2.7V
              Pin 12 = 0V
              Pin 16 = 0V
              Pin 20 = 20.2V

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              • lorins_core
                BlackSmith
                • Dec 2012
                • 551
                • Philippines

                #8
                Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                Originally posted by techtiger
                the 1st 2Mosfets are N-Channel if any short change them check Ohm with out power

                What are the Voltage PU301 1.2.3.4.5.6.12.16.20?
                Here the result

                * Used Analog Ohmmeter to X10. Leger on test Prove point (R) Red then (B) Black

                PQ301 1st. Mosfet

                S(R). D(B) = Open
                D(R). S(B) = 5 Ohms
                S(R). G(B) = Open
                G(R). S(B) = 5.5 Ohms
                D(R). G(B) = Open
                G(R). D(B) = Open

                PQ303 2nd. Mosfet Test and Reading Same on PQ301. I think the Both Mosfet haa been Ok.



                IC

                PU301
                Pin 1 = 0V
                Pin 2 = 0V
                Pin 3 = 0V
                Pin 4 = 0V
                Pin 5 = 0V
                Pin 6 = 2.7V
                Pin 12 = 0V
                Pin 16 = 0V
                Pin 20 = 20.2V



                Thanks Again

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                • lorins_core
                  BlackSmith
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 551
                  • Philippines

                  #9
                  Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                  [QUOTE=on/off;874154]Also should be checked PU301 pin 16 LDO REGN since acok signal tied with it.

                  Maybe if that can flow with super slow motion VCC (pin 20)>>>ACDET (pin6)>>>REGN (pin16)>>>ACOK (pin5)>>>ACDRV (pin4)

                  Make sure B+ not shorted.



                  The shape seem 10uF/25V caps.

                  Link HD image :
                  https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...WhaVEtQVHhZV1k


                  Note: Boardview for this lenovo current unavailable.


                  (Banyak Banyak Terima Kasih Kawan) More Thank You My Friend


                  accordingly The Pin No.16 0V.
                  May Be The B+... i try to Check

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                  • Techtiger
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 1602
                    • france

                    #10
                    Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                    Originally posted by lorins_core
                    Here the result

                    PU301
                    Pin 1 = 0V
                    Pin 2 = 0V
                    Pin 3 = 0V
                    Pin 4 = 0V
                    Pin 5 = 0V
                    Pin 6 = 2.7V
                    Pin 12 = 0V
                    Pin 16 = 0V
                    Pin 20 = 20.2V

                    Voltage is not correct
                    Pin 1 = 0V +19V
                    Pin 2 = 0V +19V
                    Pin 3 = 0V +19V
                    Pin 4 = 0V +24V or more
                    Pin 5 = 0V +3.3V
                    Pin 6 = 2.7V
                    Pin 16 = 0V +5V or 6V
                    Pin 20 = 20.2V

                    if you have no short in 1st 2 Fets then reflow the IC & see or change the BQ24715
                    Last edited by Techtiger; 01-20-2019, 11:07 AM.

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                    • Techtiger
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1602
                      • france

                      #11
                      Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                      [QUOTE=lorins_core;875611]
                      Originally posted by on/off
                      Also should be checked PU301 pin 16 LDO REGN since acok signal tied with it.

                      Maybe if that can flow with super slow motion VCC (pin 20)>>>ACDET (pin6)>>>REGN (pin16)>>>ACOK (pin5)>>>ACDRV (pin4)

                      Make sure B+ not shorted.



                      The shape seem 10uF/25V caps.

                      Link HD image :
                      https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...WhaVEtQVHhZV1k


                      Note: Boardview for this lenovo current unavailable.


                      (Banyak Banyak Terima Kasih Kawan) More Thank You My Friend


                      accordingly The Pin No.16 0V.
                      May Be The B+... i try to Check
                      what that in top of PQ702 is it burn

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                      • lorins_core
                        BlackSmith
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 551
                        • Philippines

                        #12
                        Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                        [QUOTE=techtiger;875656]
                        Originally posted by lorins_core

                        what that in top of PQ702 is it burn
                        its Me Again.

                        About the PQ702 no burn and any physical Damages.
                        I also i Test Actual on Ohmmeter it is a Good and the PQ701 fine...

                        Any?

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                        • lorins_core
                          BlackSmith
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 551
                          • Philippines

                          #13
                          Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                          Maybe the last Suspected is the Power IC Hmmmmm.

                          BQ24715 (PU301)

                          Anyone have know the equivalent or compatible for this IC?

                          Thank's

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                          • Pferd5
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 68
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                            not recommended but you could try to bridge pq301 and pq303 so, that you can check if the BQ24715 is working or not.

                            but I'm a beginner don't take my suggestion as a good advice.

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                            • lorins_core
                              BlackSmith
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 551
                              • Philippines

                              #15
                              Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                              Originally posted by Pferd5
                              not recommended but you could try to bridge pq301 and pq303 so, that you can check if the BQ24715 is working or not.

                              but I'm a beginner don't take my suggestion as a good advice.

                              Thank s for you advice.

                              I already Try you opinion. before. B2B Pq303 Drain to Source... Upsssss

                              The Voltage Read. on output haveb Fluctuating 8v down the 12. to down....


                              Thanks Not Luck

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                              • ktmmotocross
                                Boardkiller
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 3599
                                • slovakia

                                #16
                                Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                                never inject voltage after second mosfet or bridge this two mosfet before u check it with low voltage. if u have shorted highside mosfet u burn component/ICH, CPU/

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                                • Pferd5
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2018
                                  • 68
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                                  of course you should never bridge mosfets that don't have 19-20v output - but this 2 should be 19-20v.

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                                  • lorins_core
                                    BlackSmith
                                    • Dec 2012
                                    • 551
                                    • Philippines

                                    #18
                                    Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                                    Originally posted by Pferd5
                                    of course you should never bridge mosfets that don't have 19-20v output - but this 2 should be 19-20v.
                                    I suspected Parts Problem PU301.

                                    did you know, What is the replacement or equivalent or compatible for this IC?

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                                    • lorins_core
                                      BlackSmith
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 551
                                      • Philippines

                                      #19
                                      Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                                      Originally posted by ktmmotocross
                                      never inject voltage after second mosfet or bridge this two mosfet before u check it with low voltage. if u have shorted highside mosfet u burn component/ICH, CPU/

                                      Thanks For you Advice....

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                                      • dj_ricoh
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jan 2013
                                        • 2073
                                        • uk

                                        #20
                                        Re: lenovo yoga 2 13 Check this Out?

                                        The voltage injected needs to be 1.5v or lower
                                        Last edited by dj_ricoh; 02-03-2019, 01:06 AM.
                                        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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