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  • alextech
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    HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

    I have a hp Goya Balen motherboard, I am a beginner to repairing motherboards. The motherboard turns on but no video, also this motherboard does not have a GPU. The question I would like to ask is what do I have to look for? It seems to me like most people would think that the problem would be the GPU, but I know it would not be that. I have checked the capacitors under the CPU and some appeared to be shorted to ground, but to make sure it wasn't I took it off the board and they were not shorted to ground. I am curious if this would be a resistor or a bios issue? I did find a schematic for Goya/Balen, but the schematic is for motherboards with GPU.
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  • SMDFlea
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    Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

    Post a close up picture of the area around PU4002 ,SPR5,PL4001 , and a second picture to the right of PL4001
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    • alextech
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      Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

      It was kind of hard to get a focus when getting close, is this good enough? I checked the coil and there is open line and no beep on that coil. I do see like a little black dot between PU4003 and PL4001, not sure if its a burn or not.
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      Last edited by alextech; 10-10-2018, 06:35 PM.

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      • SMDFlea
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        Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

        Clean up that whole area with a brush and 100% IPA alcohol. Check voltage on PU4004 and PU4006 pins 1,4,8 . Use the attatched schematic for reference
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        • alextech
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          Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

          Ok I have an update, apparently when I was checking the board I accidently shorted a capacitor with the dc in connector and resulted in no power. I shorted a cap that I touched and a diode 330 that I did not and replaced but still have no power. I bought a power supply to see if it could help me find a bad component. I checked for voltage on PU4004 AND PU4006. It appears that all pins have 3 to 4 volts except for pu4006 top pins have 19v. the volts are jumping back and forth by 1 on the 3 to 4 volts. I have not looked at the schematics just yet, I have been busy. I will get back once I have time.

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          • alextech
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            Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

            Ok so I decided to make 2 videos to see whats really going with volts and continuity:

            Continuity mode - https://youtu.be/BoEGsMrGTMg
            Volts mode - https://youtu.be/khCbiGNBne8

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            • SMDFlea
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              #7
              Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

              Its likely that PU4006 is damaged. Remove PU4006 and PU4004 from the board and test them .
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              • alextech
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                Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                Ok I was not sure how to test PU4006, so what I did was check continuity on pins 1 2 3 and 4 and there is no beep. Also I saw a video of a very similar board with no power and had same PU4006 transistor and he basically jump the other side to pin 2 and he had power. However I tried that and it did not work. After putting the transistors back, I am now getting 12 and sometimes 15 volts on PU4004 leg 1, but on pin 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 are 1.2 and sometimes 1.5 volts. How is this possible? Also I checked coils in ohms and the back of the board all have open line, but in the front there about 100 ohms.

                Here is video checking ohms: https://youtu.be/DzV8nn04Yz4
                Here is mb similar problem: https://youtu.be/mAFrdkbnTz0

                I have ordered transistors and will change if needed.
                Last edited by alextech; 10-14-2018, 08:19 PM.

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                • alextech
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                  Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                  Correction: PU4004 pins 1 2 3 4: .3 and .4 v (jumping up and down)
                  5 6 7 8: .9 volts
                  PU4006: pins 1 2 3 4: .3 and.4 v (up and down)
                  Pins 5 6 7 8: 19 v

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                  • alextech
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                    Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                    Ok, so I replaced the PU4006 and PU4004 and still no power. The reading on PU4006 leg 5 6 7 8 is 19v and the 1 2 3 4 are no volts. The reading on PU4004 leg 5 6 7 8 are .9 volts and leg 1 2 3 4 are no volts. The volts are not going up and down anymore. Would I need to use a power supply to load amps on PU4006?

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                    • SMDFlea
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                      Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                      No ,don`t inject power just yet. Check volts on pin 6 of PU4001, then disconnect all power and test ohms to gnd on pins 1,2,3,4 and 6 .
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                      • alextech
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                        Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                        Ok, so you said PU4001, I think you probably meant PU4002? There is no PU4001 on this board. I took pictures to clarify what you meant. A little bit dirty due to the unclean flux I put. Another note PC4025 has 66 k Ohms on one side but the problem it not the capacitor itself.
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                        Last edited by alextech; 11-17-2018, 09:51 AM.

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                        • alextech
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                          Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                          Ok, so when you said PU4001, I believe you were referring to BQ738

                          Ok PIN 1 on BQ738/BQ24738 (same), schematics says its PU4001 but on mb is not shown.
                          VOLTS:
                          PIN 1 - .9 v
                          PIN 4 - no volts
                          PIN 6 - no volts

                          OHMS:
                          PIN 1-4 Open Line
                          PIN 6 60 k ohms
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                          Last edited by alextech; 11-17-2018, 04:15 PM.

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                          • SMDFlea
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                            Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                            PC4010 looks burnt. SC2D2U25V5KX , 2.2uf 25V .Replace it and do the same tests.

                            EDIT: PQ4003 on the board looks like it has a burn mark on the top
                            Last edited by SMDFlea; 11-18-2018, 09:27 AM.
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                            • alextech
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                              Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                              PC4010 and PQ4003 looks like that because of the no clean flux I used, I thought I bought the flux I was looking for like they use at my job but it wasn't. I put too much thats why it looks like that, I left a note for that. I will try to clean it more. PC4010 I was going to replace but realized there was still 66 k ohms on the board, so I decided to put it back. I need to check SC2D2U25V5KX, Is this not shown on the picture or are you referring to PC4010? I will replace PC4010 just in case though.
                              Last edited by alextech; 11-18-2018, 10:09 AM.

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                              • SMDFlea
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                                Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                                PC4010 is on the board.On your picture at post #12 it looks burnt or its not seated across both pads. PC4010 on the schematic has the part number SC2D2U25V5KX.You need to replace the BQ24738 , its not going to be easy though if you`ve never soldered a QFN IC before.Practice first on some other scrap boards,watch youtube videos, use plenty of flux and a fine tip on the soldering iron.
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                                • alextech
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                                  Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                                  Originally posted by SMDFlea
                                  PC4010 is on the board.On your picture at post #12 it looks burnt or its not seated across both pads. PC4010 on the schematic has the part number SC2D2U25V5KX.You need to replace the BQ24738 , its not going to be easy though if you`ve never soldered a QFN IC before.Practice first on some other scrap boards,watch youtube videos, use plenty of flux and a fine tip on the soldering iron.
                                  Thanks for letting me know to practice on that one, I will practice with some scrap boards before I change it. I replaced PC4010, should look a lot better now.
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                                  Last edited by alextech; 11-18-2018, 11:17 AM.

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                                  • alextech
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                                    Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                                    Ok I changed BQ738 and here is the volts and ohms on the pins, still wont power on:
                                    1 .9 v
                                    4 30mV
                                    6 2.6 v

                                    1 4 ohms
                                    2 4 ohms
                                    3 4 ohms
                                    4 OL
                                    6 60 k ohms

                                    Also I have a pic where the short happened and the BQ738 IC chip that I replaced:
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                                    • Techtiger
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                                      #19
                                      Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                                      BQ24738 is not correct

                                      pin 1=19v
                                      pin 2=19v
                                      pin 3=19v
                                      pin 4= must be high to operate N Channel mosfet to by pass voltage above 20V
                                      pin 6=2.7v

                                      remove PT4601 cap and test it
                                      Last edited by Techtiger; 12-14-2018, 09:36 AM.

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                                      • alextech
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                                        Re: HP dv7-7133nr No Video Problem Goya/Balen

                                        I forgot to mention PT4601, I did tested it when I removed and was short and I did replace.

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