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  • iplaypty
    Member
    • Aug 2017
    • 47
    • FLORIDA

    #1

    x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

    Hello everyone,

    I have this board, x453ma rev 2.0

    Power LED turns on and off inmediatly after pressing power button.

    I measured all the voltage on UP1589Q, attached image.
    How may I know if this IC is ok?

    No voltage (3.3v, 5v) on output coils.


    Any help or tips on this is very much appreciated.

    Thank you
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  • JaroTech
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2015
    • 351
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

    Hi, if you have the schematics for the X453MA motherboard, you can share it here, it will help us answer your question.

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    • speedycomp
      New Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 5
      • Serbia

      #3
      Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

      check voltage on pin 11 ,if not persist , fallow to the source

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      • speedycomp
        New Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 5
        • Serbia

        #4
        Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

        if exist , found jumpers on motherboard and take out contact to the 3,3 v and 5v . If something have short circuit , after jumpers take out , u will have both voltage .also check all usb input , probably is broken inside and make short circuit inside connector , also check HDMI connector for same reason

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        • iplaypty
          Member
          • Aug 2017
          • 47
          • FLORIDA

          #5
          Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

          Originally posted by JaroTech
          Hi, if you have the schematics for the X453MA motherboard, you can share it here, it will help us answer your question.
          I do not have the schematics. I found a repair guide on internet, but don't know how to use it.
          Attached Files

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          • iplaypty
            Member
            • Aug 2017
            • 47
            • FLORIDA

            #6
            Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

            Originally posted by speedycomp
            check voltage on pin 11 ,if not persist , fallow to the source
            Voltage on pin 11 is 19.4v, stable 19.4v

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            • iplaypty
              Member
              • Aug 2017
              • 47
              • FLORIDA

              #7
              Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

              Originally posted by speedycomp
              if exist , found jumpers on motherboard and take out contact to the 3,3 v and 5v . If something have short circuit , after jumpers take out , u will have both voltage .also check all usb input , probably is broken inside and make short circuit inside connector , also check HDMI connector for same reason
              What do you mean by "jumpers on motherboard and take out contact to the 3,3v and 5v"?

              I haven't been able to find any short, USB ports and HDMI ports look in very good conditions

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              • JaroTech
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Mar 2015
                • 351
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                From the voltages you have taken on the UP1589Q, two signals are not good ENTRIP1 and ENTRIP2 must be lower than 4.5V to activate channels 1 and 2. If they are higher than 4.5V, channels 1 and 2 do not work. If you look at the repair guide on page 2, you have two signals controlling the UP1589Q, 5VSUS_ON and 3VSUS_ON, these two signals control ENTRIP1 and ENTRIP2 with two transistors in a single 6-pin package, you will find this chip near the UP1589Q, maybe you'll see the K1 mark on it. Measure all the voltages of this chip.

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                • iplaypty
                  Member
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 47
                  • FLORIDA

                  #9
                  Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                  Originally posted by JaroTech
                  From the voltages you have taken on the UP1589Q, two signals are not good ENTRIP1 and ENTRIP2 must be lower than 4.5V to activate channels 1 and 2. If they are higher than 4.5V, channels 1 and 2 do not work. If you look at the repair guide on page 2, you have two signals controlling the UP1589Q, 5VSUS_ON and 3VSUS_ON, these two signals control ENTRIP1 and ENTRIP2 with two transistors in a single 6-pin package, you will find this chip near the UP1589Q, maybe you'll see the K1 mark on it. Measure all the voltages of this chip.
                  This is what I was able to measure
                  Attached Files

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                  • iplaypty
                    Member
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 47
                    • FLORIDA

                    #10
                    Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                    I tried to follow the Repair Guide.

                    The charger is pluged-in, no charging light, now power on, power button has 3.3v, 0v when power button pressed.

                    steps:
                    1.Pr8806 AC_BAT_SYS = 19.4v
                    2 PSL8100 +5VA = 4.98v
                    3 PSL8101 +3VA = 3.27v
                    4.R3042 AC_IN_OC# = 0v
                    5 SL3005 +3VA_EC = 0v
                    6 D3204 EC_RST = 0v
                    7.PQ8108 +5VSUS_ON = 0v
                    8 PQ8108 +3VSUS_ON = 0v

                    Could it be the ITE IC? how may I properly check it?

                    Thanks

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                    • smali
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 287
                      • Pakistan

                      #11
                      Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                      Check short circuit on 3vsus and 5vsus line.

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                      • mcplslg123
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 7262
                        • india

                        #12
                        Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                        +3va_ec is zero-means ec is not getting power. So ec will not work. Look for shorting in 3va ec line. Might be sio itself is bad.

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                        • iplaypty
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                          • Aug 2017
                          • 47
                          • FLORIDA

                          #13
                          Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                          Originally posted by smali
                          Check short circuit on 3vsus and 5vsus line.
                          I desoldered PL8101 and was able to get 3V in 3VA_EC and EC_RST.

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                          • iplaypty
                            Member
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 47
                            • FLORIDA

                            #14
                            Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                            Originally posted by JaroTech
                            Hi, if you have the schematics for the X453MA motherboard, you can share it here, it will help us answer your question.
                            Found the boardview, no schematics tho.
                            Attached Files

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                            • iplaypty
                              Member
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 47
                              • FLORIDA

                              #15
                              Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                              Found that AC_IN_OC# is 0v

                              CHG_ACOK_r_10 is 3v.

                              Changed PR8829 for another 100kohm resistor, no difference.

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                              • JaroTech
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 351
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                                I have a schematic with components similar to the X453MA, you can use it to troubleshoot. Follow the signals on page 98.
                                Attached Files

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                                • iplaypty
                                  Member
                                  • Aug 2017
                                  • 47
                                  • FLORIDA

                                  #17
                                  Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                                  Removed PQ8810, now AC_IN_OC# is 3.3v

                                  +3VA_EC is 3.3v
                                  EC_RST is 3.3v
                                  Last edited by iplaypty; 03-28-2018, 10:12 AM.

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                                  • iplaypty
                                    Member
                                    • Aug 2017
                                    • 47
                                    • FLORIDA

                                    #18
                                    Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                                    Originally posted by JaroTech
                                    I have a schematic with components similar to the X453MA, you can use it to troubleshoot. Follow the signals on page 98.
                                    Thank you!

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                                    • aris_prast1
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 70
                                      • Indonesia

                                      #19
                                      Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                                      Its solved?My laptop is same...

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                                      • iplaypty
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                                        • Aug 2017
                                        • 47
                                        • FLORIDA

                                        #20
                                        Re: x453ma motherboard, turns on and off inmediatly

                                        Originally posted by aris_prast1
                                        Its solved?My laptop is same...
                                        not yet

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