A1708 820-00875 won't power on; 20V 500mA initially, then 0A.

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  • ipmungam
    Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 13
    • Australia

    #1

    A1708 820-00875 won't power on; 20V 500mA initially, then 0A.

    Our 2016 13" mbp has had some issues since liquid got into one of the USB-C ports a few years ago, but it was working well with the latest (aftermarket) battery for several weeks -- until now.

    With the board out and no battery, it negotiates 20V properly and starts to take 300-600mA (let's call this phase 1). With the screen attached it will even show the red low battery icon. Then after 5-10s the current drops to near zero and nothing more happens (phase 2). Power button has no effect.

    I have checked all the coils I can see while unpowered and none seem shorted to ground. PPBUS_G3H is 13V during both phase 1 and 2; the other power rails seem to power on during phase 1 (I only have a few seconds to check, so can't be sure, but the display briefly works so must be something right). However most everything other than PPBUS_G3H goes to exactly 0V in phase 2. It's as though they're being shut down.

    Any thoughts most welcome.
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14394
    • Canada

    #2
    Flux and remove F7000. Power up again. What is the voltage to ground on the removed fuse pcb pad # 1 ? Is it stable or still power cycling?

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    • ipmungam
      Member
      • Nov 2021
      • 13
      • Australia

      #3
      Thanks very much for the speedy reply -- I will try this and report back.

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      • ipmungam
        Member
        • Nov 2021
        • 13
        • Australia

        #4
        Hello again. Took some work but I got F7000 off -- now the board negotiates 20V but never takes more than 20mA, which I suppose makes sense.
        The voltage at the F7000 pin is a steady 13V. This is consistent with when the fuse was in -- it wasn't power cycling so much as it seemed to start the pre-boot process (phase 1), but then got interrupted at some step and shut down the rest of the power rails.

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        • ipmungam
          Member
          • Nov 2021
          • 13
          • Australia

          #5
          I've tested resistance to ground for all the power rails I can see listed in the schematic -- no shorts as far as I can tell.
          This suggests I'm missing an enable signal somewhere -- any suggestions on where to start looking would be welcome.

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          • mon2
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            • Dec 2019
            • 14394
            • Canada

            #6
            Do you see the same low battery graphic with and without the battery attached? Can you test with another known good battery? Amazon?

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            • ipmungam
              Member
              • Nov 2021
              • 13
              • Australia

              #7
              Thanks. With F7000 removed I have reinstalled the board with the "new" battery (recently bought on Amazon and worked for 1-2 weeks) and "old" battery (bought aftermarket a few years ago, swollen cell). [I don't have the "original" battery anymore.]

              0. No battery: 20V, draws 0-40mA, no longer seeing the low battery screen (to see an image does F7000 need to be in place?).
              1. New battery: 5V, power cycles every time it tries to reach 20V.
              2. Old battery: 20V, draws 0-40mA, no screen.

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
                • 14394
                • Canada

                #8
                Yes. Add fuse. Test again and confirm the graphics.

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