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    #21
    Re: The final piece to the nVidia puzzle - voltage

    It's next on the list. I have a HP G62 with onboard video coming in.

    Although i've done many of those and they have always behaved well after reballing, so i don't know whether it's absolutely necessary to undervolt it. But i will try.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!

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      #22
      Re: The final piece to the nVidia puzzle - voltage

      Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3 View Post
      It's not quite like that - i'm sure the manufacturers WILL give a damn if they made a mistake in the past that cost them $200 million... I was just pointing out that there is yet another side to the big nVidia issue that very few people have investigated.
      NV were only sued because of the bumping issue being an inherent defect, that was causing far higher numbers to fail in a far shorter timeframe. While higher voltages may compound the issue, it's an example of cost vs comprimise - many chips out there won't run below those voltages even though some will. Manufacturers have been doing this since forever.

      It's similar to the copper shim vs thermal pad thing - it compounds the issue, but it is not the root cause.
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        #23
        Re: The final piece to the nVidia puzzle - voltage

        genus. fucking genus.
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          #24
          Re: The final piece to the nVidia puzzle - voltage

          Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3 View Post
          It's next on the list. I have a HP G62 with onboard video coming in.

          Although i've done many of those and they have always behaved well after reballing, so i don't know whether it's absolutely necessary to undervolt it. But i will try.
          I got to a g62 !
          I got it from ebay with 28£ no hdd/ram and cover.
          left it run for 15 min athen I shut it down straight away then power back and voila ! HP LOGO.
          its wait for me to get a proper fix but I`m working on a stupid asus g1s with 8600gt that **** S**T.
          Just cook it! It's already broken.

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            #25
            Re: The final piece to the nVidia puzzle - voltage

            Originally posted by spleenharvester View Post
            NV were only sued because of the bumping issue being an inherent defect, that was causing far higher numbers to fail in a far shorter timeframe. While higher voltages may compound the issue, it's an example of cost vs comprimise - many chips out there won't run below those voltages even though some will. Manufacturers have been doing this since forever.

            It's similar to the copper shim vs thermal pad thing - it compounds the issue, but it is not the root cause.
            Intel has been doing this since forever too - see the huge overclocking headroom on all their chips - but their chips don't die because they don't lie about their power budget, and are very good at making low-power chips.

            NV's chips almost always eat more power than they say they do, which has consequences further down the road. See the Tegra 2/3 scandal, where multiple OEMs pulled out of the deal when nVidia gave them the final product - 20% over the power budget and 25% slower than they said it would be.

            Originally posted by dj_ricoh View Post
            I got to a g62 !
            I got it from ebay with 28£ no hdd/ram and cover.
            Mine's here too. I'll keep you updated.
            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
            Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
            A working TV? How boring!

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              #26
              Re: The final piece to the nVidia puzzle - voltage

              creative.

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