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  • Technolix
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 15
    • Germany

    #1

    HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

    Hi,

    I am new to this forum and have a problem with an HP G62-b10sg.

    It won't start without a charged battery. When I attach the PSU without an battery installed, the LED of the power switch, short lits up blue and thats it.

    If I start it with a charged battery and its powered on, I can remove the battery and let it run from the PSU.

    The LED left of the power jack does not lit up and the battery will not charge.

    I've tested so far 2 different PSUs, one 18.5 and one new 19V. They are both second brand PSUs. An original HP is on its way.

    I've also tested two different batterys whitch are known as good and they have the same part numbers.

    I've updated to the newest bios and removed the CMOS battery for 15min while pressing the power button 1min. without battery installed.

    I haven't open the notebook yet. Where do I should look?

    I am experienced in soldering and notebook repairs and read all threads about the G62 in this forum but couldn't find a matching topic for my problem.

    I hope someone can help me.
    Thanks in advance for your help.
  • dj_ricoh
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 2073
    • uk

    #2
    Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

    I saw a g71 like yours.
    I swear I call the guy stupid.
    The notebook actually power but the screen stood black. No boot.
    After you putt back the battery it booted up.
    I was like what the #%@&.
    Open if so at least we can find a schematic and start from somewhere.
    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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    • Agent24
      I see dead caps
      • Oct 2007
      • 4953
      • New Zealand

      #3
      Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

      Something wrong with the power\charging controller circuitry I expect
      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
      -David VanHorn

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      • Technolix
        Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 15
        • Germany

        #4
        Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

        It has been opened by a friend of mine before he gave it to me, who looked for burnt ICs and blown caps but couldn't find anything.

        I am searching now for a defective board with no charging issues to swap the power/charging circuit.

        Most of the HPs use the same battery. Are there differents between main parts of the charging circuit, like different MAX Ics?

        I want to ask because Id like to get a cheap board, lets say from an Dv3.

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        • dj_ricoh
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2013
          • 2073
          • uk

          #5
          Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

          we need to focus on ISL6251 page 40

          Pin 24 DCIN
          Pin 2 ACSET(ACIN)
          Pin 23 ACPRN(ACOK)

          you need to check the V there and post here after.
          p.s. see if the diagram its ok!
          Last edited by dj_ricoh; 03-09-2014, 04:29 AM.
          Just cook it! It's already broken.

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          • Technolix
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 15
            • Germany

            #6
            Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

            Hi,

            I don't have an ISL6251 but an Maxim8731ae witch is an battery charger and indeed its blown.

            Seems my friend hasn't looke close enough.

            My part number of the motherboard is 615381-001

            Do you have a schematic of this board?

            What else do I check?

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            • Technolix
              Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 15
              • Germany

              #7
              Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

              okay I've checked the datasheet and removed the Maxim.

              here are my readings:

              DCin Pin22=19,4V
              ACin Pin02=2,66V
              ACok Pin13=0V couldn't figured out what its guess its an output?

              Are the readings okay or is there another fault.

              Regards,
              Michael

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              • spidey
                climbs
                • Dec 2012
                • 644
                • Cyprus

                #8
                Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                check mosfets also.

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                • ktmmotocross
                  Boardkiller
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 3592
                  • slovakia

                  #9
                  Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                  there are lot of 3pin mosfets that switches the acok signal. must check all off them

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                  • atsio
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 819
                    • Greece

                    #10
                    Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                    Give voltages on PQ800 and PQ801 (all pins)

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                    • atsio
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 819
                      • Greece

                      #11
                      Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                      I've just noticed you checked pin 13 of charger. Probably you need to replace charger. Desolder first PR823, PR826 and PR827 and check again pin 13 of charger. Check also pin 3 of charger for REF voltage.
                      Last edited by atsio; 03-30-2014, 03:23 AM.

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                      • atsio
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 819
                        • Greece

                        #12
                        Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                        You 've checked pin 13 with charger removed?

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                        • Technolix
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 15
                          • Germany

                          #13
                          Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                          sorry for my late reply.
                          I've replaced the Maxim charger ic and now it shows me under windows, battery is charging but it doesn't.

                          But it now works from charger. I will do the steps you've suggestet in the next days.

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                          • atsio
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 819
                            • Greece

                            #14
                            Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                            Originally posted by Technolix
                            sorry for my late reply.
                            I've replaced the Maxim charger ic and now it shows me under windows, battery is charging but it doesn't.

                            But it now works from charger. I will do the steps you've suggestet in the next days.
                            If you replaced charger (Maxim) and laptop boots. Ignore everything. I can't understand the part about the battery. What do you mean?

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                            • lezsimply
                              The Wanderer
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 645
                              • Philippines

                              #15
                              Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                              I think he meant battery tray icon in windows indicates that its charging but does not actually charge the battery itself. Probably a faulty battery?

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                              • Technolix
                                Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 15
                                • Germany

                                #16
                                Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                                Hi,

                                yes thats what I've meant. The battery is okay, I've tested it in another laptop and there it charges. I do have a second battery which also wouldn't charge in the G62 but does in another laptop.

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                                • atsio
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 819
                                  • Greece

                                  #17
                                  Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                                  What is the voltage on all pins of battery connector (with battery and without battery)?
                                  What is the voltage on PR822 (with battery connected)?
                                  What is the voltage on all pins of PQ11 (with battery connected)? Check if allright, PNP FET (SI7129DN-T1-GE3).
                                  Check zener diode PD1 (B340A-13-F_3A)

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                                  • Technolix
                                    Member
                                    • Mar 2014
                                    • 15
                                    • Germany

                                    #18
                                    Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                                    Thanks for your help. Will check tommorow evening and will reply with results.

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                                    • Technolix
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2014
                                      • 15
                                      • Germany

                                      #19
                                      Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                                      Here's the schematic diagram of my notebook.

                                      Found it. PQ811.
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                                      Last edited by Technolix; 03-30-2014, 01:13 PM. Reason: found missed part

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                                      • atsio
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Oct 2013
                                        • 819
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                                        #20
                                        Re: HP G62-b10sg does not charge, works with battery

                                        Sorry, forgot to type the "8".

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