Beginner question - Hot RT9513 chip

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  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13907
    • Canada

    #21
    Let me post the G4 BV in the schematic section.

    Posted here:

    HP G6-1241sa - DA0R13MB6E0 REV E - Boardview - Badcaps

    While I go and cut the grass / weeds, review the soldering of this IC. Review the resistance to ground of the inductors as per our posts and use the BV to locate the linked inductors. If there is a shorted part on the rail, this part can heat up but it really should have turned OFF to prevent this situation.
    Last edited by mon2; 04-20-2024, 03:23 PM.

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    • Darren Hibbert
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2024
      • 102
      • UK

      #22
      Originally posted by mon2
      Are you sure the chip is RT9513?

      See your other thread here:

      What is this chip? EQ ED B1Y - Badcaps

      Update:

      Study the G4 schematic and review PU3 = RT8223.

      This dual regulator creates the +3VS5 and the +5VS5 rails.

      With no power to the board, measure the resistance to ground of PL20 inductor (either side is ok).
      With no power to the board, measure the resistance to ground of PL23 inductor (either side is ok).

      Post each measurement.

      Does your board like the one below?

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      PL20 = 3.0 ohms
      PL23 = 0.4 ohms

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      • Darren Hibbert
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2024
        • 102
        • UK

        #23
        PU3 chip

        Resistance to ground -

        Pin 1 = 110.5K
        Pin 2 = 6.08K
        Pin 3 = 110.4K
        Pin 4 = 4.07K
        Pin 5 = 4.07K
        Pin 6 = 130.6K

        Pin 7 = 0.5
        Pin 8 = 1.3
        Pin 9 = O.L
        Pin 10 = 2.3
        Pin 11 = 0004
        Pin 12 = 6.2M

        Pin 13 = O.L
        Pin 14 = 0002
        Pin 15 = 0001
        Pin 16 = 0.9M
        Pin 17 = 327K
        Pin 18 = 13.9M

        Pin 19 = 6.14M
        Pin 20 = 3.1
        Pin 21 = 6.1
        Pin 22 = O.L
        Pin 23 = 9.93K
        Pin 24 = 3.2

        Hope this means something to you as it means zilch to me!!!!

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        • Darren Hibbert
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2024
          • 102
          • UK

          #24

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 13907
            • Canada

            #25
            We are hunting for shorted output rails and you appear to have a few:

            Pin 11 = 0004
            Pin 20 = 3.1
            Pin 21 = 6.1
            Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

            Measure the resistance across the mosfet pins for the following parts:

            PQ51
            PQ46 ; low side mosfet
            PQ26
            PQ21 ; low side mosfet


            Measure:

            source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8) ; pick any of the pins from the shared pins
            source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
            drain (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)


            Post each measurement. We are hunting for a shorted mosfet which will probably be on the low side (the mosfet that goes to ground for each leg).

            Do not power up during these tests. From the shared low resistance measurements, both rails are shorting.​

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            • Darren Hibbert
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2024
              • 102
              • UK

              #26
              PQ51 - Source & Drain = 5.6M and dropping
              Source & Gate = 001.5
              Drain & Drain = 3.800M

              PQ46 - Source & Drain = 003.1
              Source & Gate = 2.500M
              Drain & Drain = 2.500M

              PQ26 - Source & Drain = 2.500M
              Source & Gate = 001.0
              Drain & Drain = 3.200M

              PQ21 - Source & Drain = 000.4
              Source & Gate = 6.30M
              Drain & Drain = 6.30M

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 13907
                • Canada

                #27
                You are missing a few units of measurement in the posted values.

                Flux and remove PQ21 off the board. Do not power up without these parts.

                Measure the resistance to ground again with pq21 on the board.

                Also concerned about PQ46 but need to know the units of measurement.

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                • mcplslg123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 7262
                  • india

                  #28
                  Remove the chip PU3 and then measure resistance to GND again on coil PL20/23. Next measure resistance to GND on pin8/17/16 of PU3(pcb pads).

                  PS:DONT PUT POWER WHILE PU3 IS NOT SOLDERED.

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