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  • aaronmarsh632
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20

    #1

    Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

    Hi,

    I did reply to a previous thread but I thought I'd create a new 1 for my own problem and provide an image with it.

    Basically if I plug the laptop charger in the LED on the charger flashes rapidly and the machine wont boot up. I have stripped the laptop and tried changing the jack but problem is still there. After reading the previous post it sounds like it could be something called the 'startup cap' I have taken a picture of the motherboard where the DC jack is connected and circled the part which I think is the 'startup cap'. Can anyone confirm if this is the correct part and if not can anyone help me with this problem please? Also how can I test the cap to see if it is faulty before replacing it?

    Thanks

    Aaron
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  • retiredcaps
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #2
    Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

    The startup cap that they are refering to is inside the AC adapter and usually an electrolytic capacitor. It is not on your laptop motherboard.
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    • lord
      Badcaps Veteran
      • May 2011
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      • Croatia

      #3
      Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

      Did you try another charger?

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      • aaronmarsh632
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20

        #4
        Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

        Hi, yeh I tried another charger before stripping down the laptop. I have seen this lots of times and trying a new charger has never solved the problem for me atleast. I also changed the jack which hasnt fixed the issue, have you any suggestions as to what may be causing the problem?

        thanks for your replies.

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        • lord
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2011
          • 319
          • Croatia

          #5
          Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

          Measure the resistance between the + and the - on DC jack on the motherboard.

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          • xaviero1412
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 56

            #6
            Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

            maybe, shorted bipolar caps

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            • aaronmarsh632
              Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20

              #7
              Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

              Hi, thanks for the replies. I have tested the jack with a multimeter and its giving an output of average 2.5v (should be 19v in my case). Which would be the bipolar caps? I'm guessing the large cylinder cap between the battery connector and cpu?

              thanks

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              • aaronmarsh632
                Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20

                #8
                Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                EDIT: I think I may have found the problem, I left the charger plugged in for a few minutes and if I get close I can smell - not burning as such but smells like heated flux, then I noticed some bubbling from 1 of the (if im not mistaken) voltage regulators. Not the 1 I have marked blue, the 1 above it. On the top of the component is where I can see it bubbling where its soldered (not the pin side). I will have a look to see if I can get a replacement from ebay orsomewhere and once I replace it I will post results.

                Thanks

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                • aaronmarsh632
                  Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                  Sorry for the tripple post but im having trouble finding a replacement. The information I can get off the component is...

                  1H34SB
                  FDD
                  6685

                  Both those parts on the board are the same. I dont currently have ano other motherboards which I can transplant the parts from, and I cant find any information regards these on the net so I dont know what an equivalant alternative would be, can anyone offer any ideas please?

                  thanks again

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                  • trebo
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 514
                    • Wales, UK

                    #10
                    Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                    Originally posted by aaronmarsh632
                    Sorry for the tripple post but im having trouble finding a replacement. The information I can get off the component is...

                    1H34SB
                    FDD
                    6685

                    Both those parts on the board are the same. I dont currently have ano other motherboards which I can transplant the parts from, and I cant find any information regards these on the net so I dont know what an equivalant alternative would be, can anyone offer any ideas please?

                    thanks again
                    Data sheet here
                    http://www.alldatasheet.com/datashee...D/FDD6685.html
                    there are plenty of replacments on Ebay found here
                    http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_tr...+6685&_sacat=0
                    Last edited by trebo; 09-14-2012, 09:50 AM. Reason: more info too add

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                    • aaronmarsh632
                      Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20

                      #11
                      Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                      Hi, thanks for that, I have been searching for the top number - i assumed the others were revision numbers etc so didnt use them. Thanks for that.

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                      • aaronmarsh632
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20

                        #12
                        Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                        Hi, I finally got the new parts this morning and soldered them on, unfortunatly I still get the same problem - does anyone know what could be causing this please?

                        thanks

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                        • ben7
                          Capaholic
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 4059
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                          Something must be shorting out the Vreg, burning it up. Desolder it and see if there is a short on the output (on the board, not the regulator).
                          Muh-soggy-knee

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
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                            #14
                            Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                            That device is a MOSFET, you should remove it and then take the resistance reading between the chassis and one pad at a time, report the resistance reading on all 3 pads.
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                            • ben7
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                              • Jan 2011
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                              #15
                              Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                              Originally posted by budm
                              ...you should remove it and then take the resistance reading between the chassis and one pad at a time, report the resistance reading on all 3 pads.
                              Yes, that is what I meant to say.
                              Muh-soggy-knee

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                              • aaronmarsh632
                                Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20

                                #16
                                Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                                Hi, thanks for the replies. I have set my multimeter to 200 ohm which is the lowest on the settings and it gives a default reading of 1 without doing anything, so I put 1 prong on the chassis and the other on 1 of the pads but the reading doesnt change - am I doing something wrong? This happens on all 6 solder pads (3 pads per component). Also I notice with both components removed the charger LED no longer flickeres.

                                Thanks

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                                • ben7
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                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 4059
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                                  Originally posted by aaronmarsh632
                                  Hi, thanks for the replies. I have set my multimeter to 200 ohm which is the lowest on the settings and it gives a default reading of 1 without doing anything, so I put 1 prong on the chassis and the other on 1 of the pads but the reading doesnt change - am I doing something wrong? This happens on all 6 solder pads (3 pads per component). Also I notice with both components removed the charger LED no longer flickeres.

                                  Thanks
                                  I have a feeling that the control chip for the MOSFETS could be fried, causing them to both turn on and the same time, and overheat.
                                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                                  • aaronmarsh632
                                    Member
                                    • Nov 2010
                                    • 20

                                    #18
                                    Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                                    Hi Ben thanks for your time, would the controller chip for the MOSFETS be the 48-pin surface mount chip next to the DC Jack named ISL9504? I have googled the chip and some1 is calling it the Power IC, would this be the chip you're refering to? If not could you possibly identify it from my picture please? I can replace these chips if need be as I have done 128-pin ic's in the past not much bigger than this 1.

                                    Thanks

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                                    • ben7
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                                      • Jan 2011
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                                      Originally posted by aaronmarsh632
                                      Hi Ben thanks for your time, would the controller chip for the MOSFETS be the 48-pin surface mount chip next to the DC Jack named ISL9504? I have googled the chip and some1 is calling it the Power IC, would this be the chip you're refering to? If not could you possibly identify it from my picture please? I can replace these chips if need be as I have done 128-pin ic's in the past not much bigger than this 1.

                                      Thanks
                                      It appears to be some sort of buck voltage regulator controller made by Intersil.
                                      Can't find the datasheet for the ISL9504 though.

                                      Your pic is not big/close enough to be able to read the numbers on the chip.
                                      Muh-soggy-knee

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                                      • aaronmarsh632
                                        Member
                                        • Nov 2010
                                        • 20

                                        #20
                                        Re: Adapter LED flashing, laptop not switching on

                                        Hi thanks for checking, I have taken a closer image of the chip, i cant find anything that means anything to me through a google search, maby you'll know more about it than me. Heres the pic anyway.

                                        Thanks
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