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  • Ado02
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2021
    • 100
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

    Hi,

    I am working on a Acer SF314-41 laptop where the battery is not detected.

    The laptop works off the charger and the battery but it's not charging or showing the battery in Windows.

    Charger IC: BQ24781

    BATPRES - 0v With Battery and 3v Without when the charger is plugged in
    SDA - 3.2v
    SCL - 3.2v

    Battery Connector:

    BT+ 7.2V
    BI 0v
    BAT_IN#_1 0v
    BATA_SCL_1 3.2v
    BATA_SDA_1 3.2v

    Update: Brand New Battery Installed Prior To Any Measurements Were Taken

    Where to look next?

    Mod Edit - Link to schematic https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117526
    Reminder: rules and organization of this section - https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117483
    Last edited by Vesko356; 09-13-2023, 12:40 PM. Reason: Attached schematic removed and replaced with link.
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14023
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

    Test with another known good battery (Amazon?).

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    • Ado02
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2021
      • 100
      • United Kingdom

      #3
      Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

      Sorry, I forgot to mention - I installed a brand-new battery.

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 14023
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

        BAT_IN# (battery connector) should remain LOW as long as the battery is connected. Respectively, this signal BAT_IN# = PWR_CHG_BATPRES# = BATPRES# (pin 15) on the charger IC.

        Again, the charger IC @ BATPRES# should remain low as long as the battery is attached. If this pin #15 on PU4403 goes logic HIGH (3v3) then the battery is considered to be absent.

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        • Ado02
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2021
          • 100
          • United Kingdom

          #5
          Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

          Originally posted by mon2
          BAT_IN# (battery connector) should remain LOW as long as the battery is connected. Respectively, this signal BAT_IN# = PWR_CHG_BATPRES# = BATPRES# (pin 15) on the charger IC.

          Again, the charger IC @ BATPRES# should remain low as long as the battery is attached. If this pin #15 on PU4403 goes logic HIGH (3v3) then the battery is considered to be absent.
          BAT_IN#_1 is 3.26v when the battery is disconnected and Pin 15 on Charger IC is also 3.26v. When the battery is connected it drops to 0.300v.

          I hope this helps.

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 14023
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

            Remove all power. Measure the resistance between pins 19 & 20 (SRN & SRP).

            Measure directly at the charger IC PU4403.

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            • Ado02
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              • Jul 2021
              • 100
              • United Kingdom

              #7
              Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

              Originally posted by mon2
              Remove all power. Measure the resistance between pins 19 & 20 (SRN & SRP).

              Measure directly at the charger IC PU4403.
              21.0 ohm

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 14023
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

                The current loop circuit resistance is ok.

                Fault may be with the 2*DCin mosfets. Remove all power. Measure the resistance across each of the DCin mosfets (often the 2nd one can be defective).

                Measure:

                source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
                source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
                gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)

                Post each measurement.

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                • Ado02
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2021
                  • 100
                  • United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

                  PU4408

                  1-2-3 & 5-6-7-8 / 4.7 Mohms
                  1-2-4 & 4 / 3.78 Mohms
                  4 & 5-6-7-8 / 6.10 Mohms

                  PU4401

                  1-2-3 & 5-6-7-8 / 4.9 Mohms
                  1-2-4 & 4 / 3.78 Mohms
                  4 & 5-6-7-8 /5.72 Mohms

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                  • Ado02
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2021
                    • 100
                    • United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Re: Acer SF314-41 battery not detected

                    SOLVED:

                    Ordered another brand-new battery and this time everything works as it should.

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