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    Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

    Hello everyone,

    I am currently trying to fix a Thinkpad E15 Gen 2 with the motherboard NM-D011.

    Initially it was fully dead, no charging lights and charger did not switch to 20V. Replaced the USB-PD-Controller because it seemed to have an internal short and now the charge LED lights up, the battery gets charged but the laptop still does not show any signs of life when I press the power button.

    The power button it self is definitely working as it pulls the PWRSWITCH pin of the SIO chip to ground when I press it.

    Further troubleshooting reveals that the 5V ALW voltage rail is not switched on, however 3V ALW is present. For the 5V ALW rail to show up, the signals EC_ON_5V an USM_EN_5V both have to be HIGH (that is my understanding after looking at the schematics on page 70). EC_ON_5V is actually HIGH but USM_EN_5V is not, therefore the PowerIC does not turn on. Both signals are coming directly from the SIO Chip.

    The BIOS Chip also does not recieve 3V on its input. It gets powered by the 3VALW_PCH voltage rail which has to be turned on by the EC_ON_PCH signal. This signal is LOW.

    It did notice however a minor voltage (~1V) on the 3VALW_PCH rail even though it should be turned off. The voltage rail is used as a pull up source for some signals, could that be why there is some voltage on it?

    Can anybody explain what the "USM_EN_5V" signal means and why it is not present?

    And what needs to turn on first, the BIOS Chip (and therefore also the voltage rail for the bios chip) or the 5V ALW rail?

    I am pretty new to laptop repairs and I am not sure what to check next. Any help would greatly be appreciated.


    Schematics + Boardview: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=106574

    #2
    Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

    For EC ON Signal controlled by a software inside IO controller The software (BIOS)must be satisfied the power supply must be satisfied

    USM_EN_5V signal is used enable 5V ALWS most probably BIOS & power supply

    What voltage do you have SIO pin 23 25 ? what is status on PWRBTN_LED# ?

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      #3
      Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

      On Pin 23 I have 0V and Pin 25 toggles LOW to HIGH 3 times after I plug in the charger. I can also see this on the actual led when I connect it to the motherboard. This should be expected behaviour for Thinkpads.

      Might be good to add that the green (optional) resistor that connects Pin 25 to USM_EN_5V is not present on my board. The signal only gets controlled by pin 23.

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        #4
        Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

        measure the resistance to ground diode mode pin 23 SIO do you have have 3VL PR9948? , remove PQ25 and see if the signal is back

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          #5
          Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

          Pin 23 Resistance: 200kOhm
          Pin 23 Diode mode: 0,76V

          Yes I have PR9948 and it also shows the correct resistance (100kOhm)

          I have now removed PQ25 and therefore the enable signal of the Power IC should only controlled by EC_ON_5V. Indeed the enable pin 6 is now at 3V. However the IC still does not give any voltage on its main output to PL6. Pin 5 (VIN) of the IC is 9V, and I do not know what the other pins are for, as I cannot find a datasheet for it.

          The resistance to ground of the 5V_ALW rail, (measured on PL6) is 7 Ohms. Is this too low?

          I removed the coil PL6 to check if the IC gives 5V output without beeing connected to the rail, however it still remains 0V. The output of the chip measures 68kOhms to ground.

          Could the Power IC be dead or does it need any other signals to function? Perhaps you understand a little better what the purpose of the other pins is.

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            #6
            Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

            PL6-Resistance to GND 7 Ohms- clear cut indication of shorted 5V Rail.Remove the coil PL6 and inject 1V/5A on the consumer side to see what is getting hot.

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              #7
              Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

              Allright, I do not have a power supply at the moment but I will get one and do that, thank you.

              May I ask what the usual resistance range for the 5V ALW rail is?

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                #8
                Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

                Atleast 10K ohms on 5V rail.However, it varies from mb to mb.

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                  #9
                  Re: Thinkpad E15 G2 (Intel) NM-D011 Missing 5V ALW

                  Originally posted by diddyholz View Post
                  Allright, I do not have a power supply at the moment but I will get one and do that, thank you.

                  May I ask what the usual resistance range for the 5V ALW rail is?
                  Test the USB line for any short to GND
                  Last edited by Techtiger; 09-09-2023, 01:43 AM.

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