MSI MS-17F51 Chip

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  • asdas09
    Member
    • May 2023
    • 19
    • Finland

    #1

    MSI MS-17F51 Chip

    Anyone know it is this the bios chip or someone other? It's burned. No available boardview or schematic for MSI MS-17F51.

    I checked the MSI MS-17F31 boardview and there is added the info "TSSOP8" for chips of this size.

    MOD Edit, Link to boardview -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1268604
    Reminder: rules and organization of this section -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117483
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    Last edited by SMDFlea; 09-06-2023, 10:34 AM.
  • ResoluteHawk
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 153
    • United States

    #2
    Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

    Your BIOS chip is U37. It's located above and to the right of the PCH/Chipset (the big chip on the left side of your photo).

    If the chip in the first photo is the same chip as the chip in the 2nd photo, it looks to be a USB load switch.

    What problem are you running into exactly? Is the system not powering on? Not posting? USB ports not working?

    If that chip is burned I would take it off to start with.
    Last edited by ResoluteHawk; 09-06-2023, 08:32 AM.

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    • asdas09
      Member
      • May 2023
      • 19
      • Finland

      #3
      Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

      I removed that burned chip. I can replace to this any the tssop-8 USB load switch chip? Example. https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...4-1YMM/1028557
      Last edited by asdas09; 09-06-2023, 09:29 AM.

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      • asdas09
        Member
        • May 2023
        • 19
        • Finland

        #4
        Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

        Still the system won't turn on, fan won't spin, no light etc... When connect to the charger and check with a thermal camera, you see that this chip (PU5) WQFN20_TSMDQ63 soon very hot about 50°C.
        This chip also bad because it is so hot? What I also know is that SW_3V3 / +3VSUS is shorted.
        Last edited by asdas09; 09-06-2023, 09:18 AM.

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        • ResoluteHawk
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2021
          • 153
          • United States

          #5
          Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

          PU5 looks like your 3.3v/5v buck converter.

          Speaking from experience here; if this chip heats up when power is plugged in, it usually means that your Super IO chip (U22) is fried.

          Just because PU5 heats up does NOT mean that the chip is bad. To verify that your 3.3v/5v buck converter is good, make sure that the input voltage is good (19-20v) on PC59, and make sure that the chip is producing the correct voltages (3.3v and 5v). Check PC65 for 3.3v and PC60 for 5v.

          Check for shorts on the capacitors around U22 (C928, C929, C932, C941). 3.3V should be present on each of these capacitors. If a lesser value is present, then your Super IO needs to be replaced.
          Last edited by ResoluteHawk; 09-06-2023, 09:50 AM.

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          • asdas09
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            • May 2023
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            #6
            Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

            All shorted U22 (C928, C929, C932, C941).

            PC60 - 9v
            PC65 - 0.37v
            PC59 - 19V
            PR116 - 0V
            PR79 - 0V

            I removed also the burned resistor (PR93). I can replace any resistor that looks like the same original resistor?

            It seems that the (U52) chip is also burned because there is a big black mark on it. Shorted capacitors around it C1226, C1240.
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            Last edited by asdas09; 09-06-2023, 02:31 PM.

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            • asdas09
              Member
              • May 2023
              • 19
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              #7
              Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

              Originally posted by asdas09
              Anyone know it is this the bios chip or someone other? It's burned. No available boardview or schematic for MSI MS-17F51.

              I checked the MSI MS-17F31 boardview and there is added the info "TSSOP8" for chips of this size.

              MOD Edit, Link to boardview -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1268604
              Reminder: rules and organization of this section -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117483
              .
              I found what a chip this really is MSOP-8 G547I1. This not added to boardview MSI MS-17F31 because motherboard is little different than MSI MS-17F51. Anyone know, need to be programmed like this chips?

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 13950
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: MSI MS-17F51 Chip

                This USB load switch does not need programming. It is a fixed max current electronic fuse that will cut off the vbus power rail if the preset current threshold is exceeded. Will reset after the event is removed but often these devices get nuked in the event. More crapware.

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