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  • Kitayu
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    • Oct 2021
    • 22
    • Turkey

    #1

    Lenovo 330-15ich dead

    Hi, this morning when measuring the input voltage of the device I am powering with the adjustable power supply, I accidentally short-circuit the signal pin with 19 and the device went silent


    How do I handle this? Is the processor damaged? When I looked at the datasheets, I saw that the signal pin did not go directly to important places, but the device does not work



    Mainboard : EG530 NM-B671

    I look forward to your very urgent help, thank you in advanceI look forward to your very urgent action, thank you in advance
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13829
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

    Which signal pin?

    Start with the main power rail review at the charger IC.

    Carefully, measure the voltage to ground of N2.

    Schematic is here:

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96270

    What is the voltage?

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    • Kitayu
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      • Oct 2021
      • 22
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      #3
      Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

      Originally posted by mon2
      Which signal pin?

      Start with the main power rail review at the charger IC.

      Carefully, measure the voltage to ground of N2.

      Schematic is here:

      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96270

      What is the voltage?

      I'm talking about the pin that tells me how many watts the adapter is


      Take voltage measurementI will look at the schematics you threw when I go to the workshop, the measurements I take now are as follows:


      19 volts goes healthy up to the mosfets, but the on key goes 1.5 - 2.0 volts, not 3 volts, but I'm not entirely sure because the on key is on the keyboard and I don't know which pin on the keyboard belongs to the on key. But all voltages are no more than 2 volts

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      • Kitayu
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        • Oct 2021
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        #4
        Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

        Sorry for bad english, i used translate

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        • Kitayu
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          • Oct 2021
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          #5
          Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

          Originally posted by mon2
          Which signal pin?

          Start with the main power rail review at the charger IC.

          Carefully, measure the voltage to ground of N2.

          Schematic is here:

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96270

          What is the voltage?

          Hello, I looked at your schematic, but it is the same as the schematic I have, exactly which pages do I need to look at?

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          • mon2
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            • Dec 2019
            • 13829
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

            PU301, check the voltage to ground of:

            pin 1 (ACN)
            pin 2 (ACP)
            pin 3 (CMSRC)
            pin 4 (ACDRV)
            pin 5 (ACOK)
            pin 6 (ACDET)
            pin 24 (REGN)

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            • JaroTech
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Mar 2015
              • 351
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

              Hi, what voltages do you have on resistor PR109 on both sides?

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              • Kitayu
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                • Oct 2021
                • 22
                • Turkey

                #8
                Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                Originally posted by mon2
                PU301, check the voltage to ground of:

                pin 1 (ACN)
                pin 2 (ACP)
                pin 3 (CMSRC)
                pin 4 (ACDRV)
                pin 5 (ACOK)
                pin 6 (ACDET)
                pin 24 (REGN)
                sure

                pin 1 : 19v
                pin 2: 19v
                pin3: 19v
                pin4: 24.8v
                pin5: 0v
                pin6: 2.7v
                pin24: 18.7v

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                • Kitayu
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                  • Oct 2021
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                  #9
                  Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                  Originally posted by JaroTech
                  Hi, what voltages do you have on resistor PR109 on both sides?
                  i cant find this

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                  • Kitayu
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                    • Oct 2021
                    • 22
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                    #10
                    Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                    Originally posted by mon2
                    PU301, check the voltage to ground of:

                    pin 1 (ACN)
                    pin 2 (ACP)
                    pin 3 (CMSRC)
                    pin 4 (ACDRV)
                    pin 5 (ACOK)
                    pin 6 (ACDET)
                    pin 24 (REGN)
                    I don't understand what you mean by ground line. I fixed the negative probe to the ground and measured with the positive lead.

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                    • Sephir0th
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                      • Oct 2020
                      • 1250
                      • Germany

                      #11
                      Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                      If the middle pin was shorted with charger plus, at least the Embedded controller has blown up for sure. Time to look there, I'd say. Charging circuit looks absolutely fine ( ACOK could be missing because of a shorted +3VL ).
                      Last edited by Sephir0th; 05-10-2023, 11:55 AM.
                      FairRepair on YouTube

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                      • Kitayu
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                        • Oct 2021
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                        #12
                        Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                        Originally posted by Sephir0th
                        If the middle pin was shorted with charger plus, at least the Embedded controller has blown up for sure. Time to look there, I'd say. Charging circuit looks absolutely fine ( ACOK could be missing because of a shorted +3VL ).
                        hello, can you tell me exactly where I should look with the name on the diagram?

                        note: when I take a measurement again, there is no data about 3 volts and 5 volts. there is only 19 volts

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                        • reformatt
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                          • Feb 2020
                          • 1398
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                          ADAPTER_ID goes directly to the EC on pin 72. With PR109, it's supposed to form a voltage divider from +3VALW with a resistor in the charger. Therefore, pin 72 should never be exposed to anything above 3V.

                          There is a protection device PD102 but given your symptoms I'd agree with @Sephir0th and say you fried your EC. It's a flaw in Lenovo's designs, as a collapsed/shorting charge socket can do the same thing, and it usually results in a shorted EC.

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                          • mon2
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                            • Dec 2019
                            • 13829
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                            #14
                            Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                            pin24 (REGN): 18.7v
                            REGN = 18v7 ?? Confirm it is ~6 volts since your ACDRV makes sense to be ~25v.

                            But as per above, review your EC for damage.

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                            • Kitayu
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                              • Oct 2021
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                              #15
                              Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                              Originally posted by mon2
                              REGN = 18v7 ?? Confirm it is ~6 volts since your ACDRV makes sense to be ~25v.

                              But as per above, review your EC for damage.

                              What exactly are we talking about when we say embedded controller?

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                              • khaahk
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 743
                                • Estonia

                                #16
                                Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                                Page 2 schematic shows block diagram. EC=embedded controller=IT8586E

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                                • Kitayu
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                                  • Oct 2021
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                                  I see another small dot on the ec that is independent of its pointer point (in the middle) I guess that's a sign of blushing

                                  anyway i'll see if i have this, or i'll order it, but are there any measurements i need to take to make sure the ec is fully lit?

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                                  • mon2
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                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 13829
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                                    You should post a clear picture of the EC for a review.

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                                    • mcplslg123
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                                      • Jun 2015
                                      • 7262
                                      • india

                                      #19
                                      Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                                      Before ordering the new EC,keep it in mind that its need to be programmed.

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                                      • Kitayu
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Lenovo 330-15ich dead

                                        Originally posted by mcplslg123
                                        Before ordering the new EC,keep it in mind that its need to be programmed.


                                        I have a model of this computer without a graphics card and a round socket. Ec are the same. I'm going to use it, I only have the eeprom programmer in my hand, so I can't program it, would it be a problem?

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