ABit AN7 uGuru fan control (FanEq) problem

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  • gdement
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2007
    • 690

    #1

    ABit AN7 uGuru fan control (FanEq) problem

    I'm experimenting with an ABit AN7. The variable fan speed feature is appealing to me, and I'd like to put it to use as a quiet PC that can still crank up the 80mm fan when needed.

    This board has a BIOS setting to make the CPU fan speed variable depending on temperature. You configure the fan's minimum and max voltage, and the temperature range through which it should vary.
    For now, I have it set to run at 8V up to 52C, and 12V at 60C.

    Here's a screenshot to illustrate what I mean:


    Unfortunately, it's not possible to set the minimum voltage any lower than 8V. This isn't quiet or slow enough, it's still running at 2550rpm @ 8V. I want it *quiet* unless it's getting hot. I'd like a minimum more like 1500rpm or so, but increasing to 3000+ as necessary.

    My fan has a potentiometer to manually adjust the speed. I tried using that to calibrate the speed to a slower range. Unfortunately, if I adjust it very much below full speed then the motherboard immediately shuts off. My guess is it's tripping because the fan voltage is lower than what the board is trying to maintain. It trips at about the same point on the potentiometer regardless of whether the FanEq feature is active.

    If the pot setting is marginal, then the board can still begin to POST before shutting off. It seems to shut off at about the point that uGuru is ready to slow the fan down. But if the pot is set for a very slow speed, then the board shuts off so quickly the fan hardly completes 1 revolution. The integrated code reader reports 9.A. when I do this. The periods indicate that's a code from the uGuru feature, not a standard Award code. But ABit doesn't list that code in the table I found online.

    Disabling FanEq entirely has no effect, the board still won't let me lower the pot.

    Can anybody confirm exactly what's going on? My guess might be wrong. Also, does anybody know a way to get more range in the fan speeds on this board? There is 1 more BIOS version later than mine, but the release notes only mention adding a little more CPU support.
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  • willawake
    Super Modulator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: ABit AN7 uGuru fan control (FanEq) problem

    what have you set for CPU shutdown temperature?
    if you make cpu fan failed shutdown disabled, what happens.
    capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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    • Per Hansson
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2005
      • 5895
      • Sweden

      #3
      Re: ABit AN7 uGuru fan control (FanEq) problem

      The pot only lower the voltage on the other side, the mobo would not see this...

      However it will still be drawing the same current, might be some elobrate setup that notices this...
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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      • gdement
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jan 2007
        • 690

        #4
        Re: ABit AN7 uGuru fan control (FanEq) problem

        Originally posted by willawake
        what have you set for CPU shutdown temperature?
        if you make cpu fan failed shutdown disabled, what happens.
        Shutdown temperature was set for 75C, but I just disabled it and no change in the behavior. The warning temperature can't be disabled, but I raised it to 80C and no effect.

        CPU fan failed shutdown is already disabled.

        Originally posted by Per Hansson
        The pot only lower the voltage on the other side, the mobo would not see this...

        However it will still be drawing the same current, might be some elobrate setup that notices this...
        I'm not really sure what the deal is, but it seems regardless of my settings, the board shuts down if I move the pot beyond a certain point. I just measured the fan's +12-gnd with a multimeter. At the full speed setting, I get a reading of 19.75Kohms. At about the point where it shuts down the board, I get a reading of 22Kohms. On an unregulated cpu fan I get 20Kohms. These numbers don't make sense to me with the amperage they're supposed to pull, but that's what my multimeter says. To put it in rpm terms, I get 3400 at max and board shuts down near 2700. But if the board is lowering the voltage then that whole range shifts a bit (but not enough).

        I tried hooking the fan up to a different port on the motherboard, which doesn't support any speed regulation, and now the board doesn't care if I adjust the pot. But the problem of course is when it's plugged in this way, the fan speed will only run at a constant.

        I guess there might not be a solution other than using an unregulated, slower fan. The shutdown behavior just seems really odd to me. Regardless of what fan I use, I really wish the auto-adjusted speed range was wider than the 74-100% range I'm getting. Maybe I'll look into hacked BIOSes, but I doubt anybody has modified the fan voltage feature.

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        • willawake
          Super Modulator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8457
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: ABit AN7 uGuru fan control (FanEq) problem

          wierd stuff. i wonder if you will actually get it to work with a slow speed fan.

          what happens if you use cpu fan with no rpm monitoring lead?
          capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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