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    Abit KT7 recapped and perfectly working out of specs

    Hiya to you all,

    Since I greatly benefited from the information found on the site, here is my story about recapping my KT7 :
    Four capacitors had died (blowed up and leaked, JPCON branded IIRC). The board was nevertheless functioning well with my Duron 700. However, since I wanted to change my CPU and because the board is a bit old, I knew I would need overclocking and to go out of specs. There was no way I would tempt this with defective capacitors.

    I then decided to recap my board and changed all capacitors (yes, even the small ones that normally do not need to) because I wanted to be foolproof for all later operations.
    I ordered the parts at Farnell (www.farnell.com).
    Here are the references you need (all these are Rubycon branded, 105°C series) :
    + 4 x 2200UF 10V ref. 769-083
    + 9 x 2200UF 6.3V ref. 768-005
    + 7 x 1500UF 6.3V ref. 767-360
    + 4 x 1000UF 16V ref. 769-150
    + 6 x 1000UF 10V ref. 768-406
    + 4 x 100UF 16V ref. 772-458 (unavailable in 16V, ref. is for 25V ones)

    That gives us a total nb of 34 parts to replace. Since I did not want to screw everything up if I made a mistake with one capacitor, I ordered one more of each type, leading to 40 pieces. As I ordered as a single person (and not through a company account), shipping fees are charged (around 6€). That lead me to a total of 40€, shipping included.

    I drew a schematic of the board and indicated beside each capacitor its type. This was easier for me once everything was removed. After everything has been removed, I proceeded by replacing a full set of indentical capacitors at a time (easier to track, less problems).
    As stated on the site/forums, depending on your replacement material, you may end up with different sizes than the original parts (this will be the case if you use the references I give). For instance, I had to solder the two caps near the AGP port horizontally because there were too big. Another time, space between the new caps pins was wider than on the original caps. I had to force a little to make them fit. As well, caps next to socket A were also too big (12mm instead of 10 IIRC) and I ended up doing the same as on the KA7 (caps leant from each other).

    Concerning soldering, I used a soldering station at maximum temperature (450°C), properly grounded along with an antistactic bracelet. Properly heat the board before attempting to remove the capacitors was very important.
    For the vias, the risk of damaging them does not lie with the sucker but with the iron : heating too much a pad will damage it. This is why I do not recommend to try emptying the vias/holes of solder before putting the new capacitors in place. Simply properly heat the pad while pushing with the new one at the other side is, to my mind, better and easier. Of course, YMMV.

    Since it was the first time I attempted to do that it took me 3 days at around 2-3 hours a day. First day : removing old caps; 2nd day : cleaning holes; 3rd day : putting the new ones in place.

    Overall, the procedure costed me far less than buying a new motherboard along with memory modules (newer MB do not support SDRAM and I have 512MB of SDRAM). Along with that, it was quite fun and I learned a lot of interesting things.

    I hope this information will be useful to some people, just as what all of you guys wrote on the site and the forums was useful to me.

    Thanks again for the information and cheers from France

    Vincent

    PS : recapped board works flawlessly with my new Duron 1600, recognized as "Unknown CPU type" @ 1440Mhz; FSB@120Mhz, mult @ 12above, no fan on chipset. Linux 2.4.26. Underwent stress test of 8 continuous hours of compilation. Running since 2 weeks with no pb.

    [EDIT] : Corrected wrong card ref in post title : KT7 and not KT7A

    #2
    it is hard to find those good rubycon from the retail shops, but i managed to fix my abit kt7 with some pannys and rubycon..

    Panasonic FC 3300uF 10v (replacing all 2200uf 10v/6.3v teapo)
    Panasonic HFQ 1500uF 16v (replacing those four 1500uf 16v jackons)
    Rubycon MBZ 1500uF 10v (replacing 1000-1500uf 10v/6.3v teapo/jackon)

    good result with my 1200mhz duron, test with memtest86, sandra, and 3dmark...

    here's the layout of the original kt7-raid.. (got the original pic from [H]ocp), my board is kt7 though..
    days are so short when you actually do something..

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      #3
      days are so short when you actually do something..

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        #4
        the original caps:

        Code:
        2200uF	10v	10mmx26mm	[4]	Teapo
        2200uF	6.3v	10mmx20mm	[9]	Teapo
        1500uF	6.3v	10mmx15mm	[4]	Jackon
        1500uF	6.3v	8mmx17mm	[3]	Jackon
        1000uF	16v	10mmx15mm	[4]	Jackon
        1000uF	10v	8mmx15mm	[6]	Teapo
        100uF	16v	6mmx8mm		[4]	Jackon
        days are so short when you actually do something..

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          #5
          For instance, I had to solder the two caps near the AGP port horizontally because there were too big. Another time, space between the new caps pins was wider than on the original caps. I had to force a little to make them fit. As well, caps next to socket A were also too big (12mm instead of 10 IIRC) and I ended up doing the same as on the KA7 (caps leant from each other).
          tell me about it..
          days are so short when you actually do something..

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            #6
            welcome Vincent

            great thread guys
            capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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              #7
              Originally posted by willawake
              welcome Vincent

              great thread guys

              I agree...
              Ya'll think us folk from the country's real funny-like, dontcha?

              The opinions expressed above do not represent those of BADCAPS.NET or any of their affiliates.

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                #8
                hope Vinz will came back and report his board now (after almost 1 year)...

                gonna get pics for my renewed board later if i can borrow a camera from a friend..
                days are so short when you actually do something..

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                  #9
                  hope Vinz will came back and report his board now (after almost 1 year)...
                  since we took so long to reply to his first post, i dont think he will.....
                  capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                    #10
                    hmm, ya..


                    all right, this is my board after successfully recapping. the pics aren't good because i only use analog cam (sony trv hi-8 handycam)... but here they are.. :

                    • the FC 3300uF is the snap in type with short leads. i can't bend it, so i have to use the little mbz or the hfq, or soldered a new leads to it to make it "bendable" and sit higher..
                    • those are rubycon yxf 1000uF 16v. i have to bend the leads to make them sit nice..
                    • panasonic FC 1000uf 10v between the pci slots..
                    • the solder joint.. am i doing it good? lol..
                    days are so short when you actually do something..

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                      #11
                      Re: Abit KT7 recapped and perfectly working out of specs

                      Bought really cheap non-working KT7 (non-RAID) - of course because of bad caps. Everything is Jackcon except the small 1000uF/10V Teapos. The bad ones are 1500uF/6.3V Jackcons - both the green and black ones.
                      Bad caps near AGP:


                      And also other bad caps - they're bulged only very slightly but they are:



                      (the one on the front is not bulged, the one on the back is).
                      The big and the smallest ones are OK:
                      Attached Files
                      Last edited by Rainbow; 01-25-2006, 02:14 PM.

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                        #12
                        Re: Abit KT7 recapped and perfectly working out of specs

                        yea, that's is just like my old board before recaped.. so how do you recap it?

                        back then, i replaced the jackons and got memory error. so i replaced the teapos and it's been 100% good till now (for ps1/2 emulation/epsxe)..

                        i don't need that noisy little fan (nothbridge fan) though, so i removed it. the heatsink is just a litlle bit warm.

                        make sure to download a latest bios..
                        days are so short when you actually do something..

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                          #13
                          Re: Abit KT7 recapped and perfectly working out of specs

                          Originally posted by yanz
                          yea, that's is just like my old board before recaped.. so how do you recap it?

                          back then, i replaced the jackons and got memory error. so i replaced the teapos and it's been 100% good till now (for ps1/2 emulation/epsxe)..

                          i don't need that noisy little fan (nothbridge fan) though, so i removed it. the heatsink is just a litlle bit warm.

                          make sure to download a latest bios..
                          The ones next to the processor socket probably were Jackcon or JPCON.
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                            #14
                            Re: Abit KT7 recapped and perfectly working out of specs

                            Originally posted by Vinz
                            Hiya to you all,

                            Since I greatly benefited from the information found on the site, here is my story about recapping my KT7 :
                            Four capacitors had died (blowed up and leaked, JPCON branded IIRC). The board was nevertheless functioning well with my Duron 700. However, since I wanted to change my CPU and because the board is a bit old, I knew I would need overclocking and to go out of specs. There was no way I would tempt this with defective capacitors.

                            I then decided to recap my board and changed all capacitors (yes, even the small ones that normally do not need to) because I wanted to be foolproof for all later operations.
                            I ordered the parts at Farnell (www.farnell.com).
                            Here are the references you need (all these are Rubycon branded, 105°C series) :
                            + 4 x 2200UF 10V ref. 769-083
                            + 9 x 2200UF 6.3V ref. 768-005
                            + 7 x 1500UF 6.3V ref. 767-360
                            + 4 x 1000UF 16V ref. 769-150
                            + 6 x 1000UF 10V ref. 768-406
                            + 4 x 100UF 16V ref. 772-458 (unavailable in 16V, ref. is for 25V ones)

                            That gives us a total nb of 34 parts to replace. Since I did not want to screw everything up if I made a mistake with one capacitor, I ordered one more of each type, leading to 40 pieces. As I ordered as a single person (and not through a company account), shipping fees are charged (around 6€). That lead me to a total of 40€, shipping included.

                            I drew a schematic of the board and indicated beside each capacitor its type. This was easier for me once everything was removed. After everything has been removed, I proceeded by replacing a full set of indentical capacitors at a time (easier to track, less problems).
                            As stated on the site/forums, depending on your replacement material, you may end up with different sizes than the original parts (this will be the case if you use the references I give). For instance, I had to solder the two caps near the AGP port horizontally because there were too big. Another time, space between the new caps pins was wider than on the original caps. I had to force a little to make them fit. As well, caps next to socket A were also too big (12mm instead of 10 IIRC) and I ended up doing the same as on the KA7 (caps leant from each other).

                            Concerning soldering, I used a soldering station at maximum temperature (450°C), properly grounded along with an antistactic bracelet. Properly heat the board before attempting to remove the capacitors was very important.
                            For the vias, the risk of damaging them does not lie with the sucker but with the iron : heating too much a pad will damage it. This is why I do not recommend to try emptying the vias/holes of solder before putting the new capacitors in place. Simply properly heat the pad while pushing with the new one at the other side is, to my mind, better and easier. Of course, YMMV.

                            Since it was the first time I attempted to do that it took me 3 days at around 2-3 hours a day. First day : removing old caps; 2nd day : cleaning holes; 3rd day : putting the new ones in place.

                            Overall, the procedure costed me far less than buying a new motherboard along with memory modules (newer MB do not support SDRAM and I have 512MB of SDRAM). Along with that, it was quite fun and I learned a lot of interesting things.

                            I hope this information will be useful to some people, just as what all of you guys wrote on the site and the forums was useful to me.

                            Thanks again for the information and cheers from France

                            Vincent

                            PS : recapped board works flawlessly with my new Duron 1600, recognized as "Unknown CPU type" @ 1440Mhz; FSB@120Mhz, mult @ 12above, no fan on chipset. Linux 2.4.26. Underwent stress test of 8 continuous hours of compilation. Running since 2 weeks with no pb.

                            [EDIT] : Corrected wrong card ref in post title : KT7 and not KT7A

                            Did you also test it with mprime? I recommend at least around 20 hours.
                            ASRock B550 PG Velocita

                            Ryzen 9 "Vermeer" 5900X

                            32 GB G.Skill RipJaws V F4-3200C16D-32GVR

                            Arc A770 16 GB

                            eVGA Supernova G3 750W

                            Western Digital Black SN850 1TB NVMe SSD

                            Alienware AW3423DWF OLED




                            "¡Me encanta "Me Encanta o Enlistarlo con Hilary Farr!" -Mí mismo

                            "There's nothing more unattractive than a chick smoking a cigarette" -Topcat

                            "Today's lesson in pissivity comes in the form of a ziplock baggie full of GPU extension brackets & hardware that for the last ~3 years have been on my bench, always in my way, getting moved around constantly....and yesterday I found myself in need of them....and the bastards are now nowhere to be found! Motherfracker!!" -Topcat

                            "did I see a chair fly? I think I did! Time for popcorn!" -ratdude747

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                              #15
                              Re: Abit KT7 recapped and perfectly working out of specs

                              Hey, I have a basic KT7 that I want to recap as an audio station for one of my sets of headphones. I have a lot of extra polymers around from my P4PE recap and was thinking of using them on this. Does anyone have a picture similar to the one above that shows all the caps with their original voltages, but that shows me the required voltages at those spots so I can decide which polymers need to go where?

                              I have 820uF 2.5V's, 560uF 4V's, 330uF 16V's, and 100uF 16V's for the little guys.
                              Presonus Audiobox USB, Schiit Magni 3, Sony MDR-V700

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