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  • bruferrit
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 50
    #41
    Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

    OST are all RLS
    TK's are ATWB for the 6.3v 1800uf & ATWY for th 16v 1800uf
    G-lux are SM (approx 8mm x 13mm) all same size.

    How would I test to see if the Vcore is in parellel

    Just upgrade the Vcore to poly. (Would it be worth it to do the whole board?)

    I do not know if #3 is in Vcore or not.

    I did get a reply from C_hegg on what he used on his board.

    NHN 1800@6.3 8 x 20Nichicon 1800uf 6.3v 8mm HN series
    NHZ 1800@16 10 x 25 Nichicon 1800uf 16v 10mm HZ series
    NHM 1000@6.3 8x11 1000uF 6.3v 8mm HM series
    NHN 470@16 8x13 470uF 16v 8mm HN series
    United Chemi-Con 820uF 2.5v 8mm Polymer Capacitor

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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA
        #42
        Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

        Originally posted by bruferrit
        How would I test to see if the Vcore is in parellel
        I do not know if #3 is in Vcore or not.
        Resistance checks.
        [If] + is connected to + [and] - is connected to - [then] they are in parallel.
        -
        That Vcore row are all in parallel.
        What I need to know if is #3 is in parallel with them.

        Need to know where you want to buy from so I can see what they have in stock.
        I recommend Badcaps.net or Mouser.com for this set of caps unless you want to buy from multiple places.

        I'll be back a bit later.
        Need to do some family stuff.
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          • bruferrit
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 50
            #43
            Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

            I do not think the cap in group #3 is in the Vcore here is exactly what Hegg said
            For the 16v 1800uF Caps (there are 3 of them), use these
            For the row of 7 caps next to the CPU (a mix of polys and electrolytics), use these (it is a tight squeeze getting them in as their legs are slightly thicker, but they do work)
            For the other 1800uF 6.3v caps (I think there are 4 or 5), use these
            For all the 1000uF 6.3v caps, use these
            for all the 470uF 16v caps, use these

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA
                #44
                Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                G-Luxon SM are GP caps. Replacing them with HN is -extreme- over-kill.
                If you like that idea then use his list.
                It's over-kill but obviously will at least work on that board so go for it.
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                  • bruferrit
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 50
                    #45
                    Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                    PCBONEZ I just want to get it right and do the job correctly. I do not know how to test the cap in #3 to see if it is in parallel. I do know why u ask the questions you do, to get the job correct so there are no problems down the road.

                    Bruce

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                      • PCBONEZ
                        Grumpy Old Fart
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10661
                        • USA
                        #46
                        Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                        After a few distractions here I'm back to working out a list.
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                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                        -
                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                        - Dr Seuss
                        -
                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                          • PCBONEZ
                            Grumpy Old Fart
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10661
                            • USA
                            #47
                            Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                            ~~~~~~~~
                            VRM-High: 1800/16v - TK 10x25mm ... Ripple = 3230 / ESR = .011
                            ---
                            Lytic:
                            Nichicon HZ: UHZ1C182MPM - 1800/16v - 10x25mm... Ripple = 3190 / ESR = .009
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...SGh7iKefNMU%3d
                            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...43c4079d93.pdf

                            Poly:
                            Nichicon LF: PLF1C471MDO1 - 470/16v - 10x13mm ... Ripple = 6100 / ESR = .009
                            [4x 330uF -or- 3x 470uF is the common configuration on mobos that come original with polymers here. Since you have 3 'spots' use 470uF.]
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...%2fggptTciQ%3d
                            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...fd1de1303c.pdf


                            ~~~~~~~~
                            VRM-Vcore:
                            1800/6.3v - TK 6.3v 8x20mm ... Ripple = 2100 / ESR = .015
                            Poly: [replacing only the lytics]
                            Nichicon R5: 820uF/2.5v - RR50E821MDN1 - 8x11.5mm - Ripple 6630 / ESR = .005
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...Vih%252btY0%3d
                            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...d175462349.pdf


                            ~~~~~~~~
                            Non-Vcore 1800's
                            1800/6.3v - TK - 8x20mm ... Ripple = 2100 / ESR = .015
                            Nichicon HN - UHN0J182MPD6 - 1800/6.3v - 8x20mm - Ripple = 2220 / ESR = .012
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...NgHrZlUloDw%3d
                            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...69df1e6a59.pdf


                            ~~~~~~~~
                            1000/6.3v - OST RLS - 8x14mm - Ripple = 630 / ESR = .070
                            Nichicon HD - UHD1A102MPD - 1000/10v - 8x20mm - Ripple = 1250 / ESR = .041
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...J9Jl%252bZg%3d
                            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...653ba34560.pdf



                            ~~~~~~~~
                            470/16v - G-Luxon SM - 8x11mm - Ripple = 315 / ESR = N/A
                            Nichicon PM - UPM1C471MPD1TD - 470/16v - 8x20mm - Ripple = 770 / ESR = .090
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...UlBGaxHBUuE%3d
                            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...d50db6d4ae.pdf

                            .
                            .........
                            I stuck links to the data sheets in there so you can see what to look at.
                            .
                            Last edited by PCBONEZ; 08-09-2011, 02:31 AM.
                            Mann-Made Global Warming.
                            - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                            -
                            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                            - Dr Seuss
                            -
                            You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                            -

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                              • bruferrit
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 50
                                #48
                                Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                Thank you very much PCBONEZ, I will post a list of what I am ordering just to make sure I got it right.

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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA
                                    #49
                                    Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                    For future reference you may find this useful:
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...1&postcount=17
                                    Would have posted earlier but I forgot where it was.
                                    .
                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                                    - Dr Seuss
                                    -
                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                    -

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                                      • bruferrit
                                        Senior Member
                                        • May 2011
                                        • 50
                                        #50
                                        Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                        VRM High
                                        Nichicon LF: PLF1C471MDO1 - 470/16v - 10x13mm ... Ripple = 6100 / ESR = .009 (Qty: 3)
                                        VRM-Core
                                        Nichicon R5: 820uF/2.5v - RR50E821MDN1 - 8x11.5mm - Ripple 6630 / ESR = .005 (Qty: 4)
                                        Non-Vcore 1800's
                                        Nichicon HN - UHN0J182MPD6 - 1800/6.3v - 8x20mm - Ripple = 2220 / ESR = .012 (Qty:5)
                                        OST replace
                                        Nichicon HD - UHD1A102MPD - 1000/10v - 8x20mm - Ripple = 1250 / ESR = .041 (Qty: 8)
                                        G-Lux replace
                                        Nichicon PM - UPM1C471MPD1TD - 470/16v - 8x20mm - Ripple = 770 / ESR = .090 (Qyt: 5)

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                                          • PCBONEZ
                                            Grumpy Old Fart
                                            • Aug 2005
                                            • 10661
                                            • USA
                                            #51
                                            Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                            Looks right.
                                            Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                            - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                                            -
                                            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                                            - Dr Seuss
                                            -
                                            You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                            -

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                                              • bruferrit
                                                Senior Member
                                                • May 2011
                                                • 50
                                                #52
                                                Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                                Got the caps but using a 25 watt iron is not enough to get the caps out without a struggle, so what is a good wattage iron to use? 40, 60?

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                                                  • PCBONEZ
                                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                    • 10661
                                                    • USA
                                                    #53
                                                    Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                                    Most people prefer a 50-60 watt.
                                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                                                    -
                                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                                                    - Dr Seuss
                                                    -
                                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                                    -

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                                                      • bruferrit
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • May 2011
                                                        • 50
                                                        #54
                                                        Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                                        thanks Bonez! BTW How you doing?!

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                                                          • bruferrit
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • May 2011
                                                            • 50
                                                            #55
                                                            Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                                            ok Update, on this MB, Finally got a Soldering iron station and swapped out all the caps listed above. It is now up and running like a champ w/ 4gigs ram and a single core AMD 3500+

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                                                              • PCBONEZ
                                                                Grumpy Old Fart
                                                                • Aug 2005
                                                                • 10661
                                                                • USA
                                                                #56
                                                                Re: need a lil advice on recapping ECS HP MCP61PM-HM

                                                                Congrats!
                                                                .
                                                                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                                                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                                                                -
                                                                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                                                                - Dr Seuss
                                                                -
                                                                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                                                -

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