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    Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

    So here's the story -
    Black Friday, 2008. Found some 22" widescreen monitors for $100 at Frys Electronics. Bought two of 'em.
    Now, 6 months in, they are both dying.

    I've done recaps of 5 or 6 monitors before. I had all the parts and I did a full recap of the board, even though it's only 6 months in and I didn't really think they'd be bad. It's fairly cheap to do, so I did it anyway.

    Didn't help. After recapping it, the monitor went about 2 days and then started exhibiting the same symptoms as before.

    The symptoms:
    The monitor that's going out faster constantly makes this horrific noise. It has a really high-pitched whine, along with a really nasty crunchy sound like fluorescent tubes make when they're first starting - but the noise never stops.
    After a while, it will start flickering - maybe a flicker every 1/2 second - for a total of about a minute. Then it will resume making its death rattle.

    The second monitor makes the noise, but to a lesser degree.

    One thing that's interesting about the flicker - it reduces in brightness, it doesn't go out. It seems as if maybe just the bottom backlights turn off.


    Diagnoses:
    I've recapped the board, and it didn't help. Sometimes the monitor stops making the noise for a day or two, so it could've been coincidence that it didn't make the noise after the recap.

    I tried reducing the brightness (I had them on 100 up until about 2 weeks ago, now they're both on 50) and the problem still remains. I put the one that is dying faster down to 0 brightness, and it stopped the noise for the most part (if it's making the noise, lowering the brightness makes the noise quiet and sometimes quit altogether) but it still flickered. However, the half-brightness state that the flicker goes to and from is only slightly darker than the monitor at 0 brightness, so you can still see it flicker, but you wouldn't notice it out of your peripheral vision or anything. It's more slight.

    Anyway, I'm new here and I'm not sure what kind of other diagnoses it might be good to do. Feel free to tell me to RTFM, but please let me know where TFM is located, as I haven't found a detailed way to diagnose this issue. It doesn't go direct-to-black as the other monitors I've repaired did, and it's also not very old. So I'm a bit lost.
    I'll be happy to provide more detailed information and pictures upon request, don't have any now and I have to get going, but I can post 'em later, just let me know what to point at. The circuit's really simple, the simplest I've personally seen in an LCD.

    Anyway, it'd be nice to get these two babies fixed. I don't want to be forced to be in the market for some new monitors, and I've seen reports from other people online about these monitors going out. And they weren't refurbished either, they were regular $229 monitors that were marked down just for the one shopping day, so I'm surprised they're dying. They have no dead pixels at all and look pretty decent (TN panels of course, though.) Occasionally a pixel will get stuck and will take a 1-2 second massage to unstick, but other than that, and the fact that they're dying after 6 months, they're great

    Thanks in advance for any help/insight y'all can offer.

    #2
    Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

    This is the first real bit of info ive found on this monitor. Mine would squeal but would stop after a bit, then it just stopped working one day. The monitor still detects in windows and it lights up, but nothing shows on the display not even the osd. The funny thing is the power light used to flicker but now it stays on. I would poke around inside, except i cant get the stupid thing apart and i dont feel like tearing up the casing. Could you post a picture or some basic instructions on how to get it apart. Id love to try and fix this thing because im stuck with a 17" viewsonic atm that randomly gets burn in for some reason, but it goes away after awhile. Anyways any help would be appreciated.

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      #3
      Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

      after a lot of frustration i figured out how it comes apart, being the impatient person i am i caused some cosmetic damage, but meh i really dont give a crap about that as long as it works. as soon as i get a chance ill write something up and post highs res pics, for anyone else who wants to tear apart theirs.

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        #4
        Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

        well, after looking at this think for awhile, my best guess, is the controller is the culprit, i think the psu is fine, being that it powers on and no longer squeals and the lcd is fine, and part of the controller is ok. its the part that outputs the image is toast, i assume this because it still registers in windows properly. i see 2 components that look toast, one a tiny resistor and two this tiny ic that i cant make out atm. i havent seen another controller on the net and i cant find a p/n that refrences anything either. so im prolly just going to see if i can replace those parts. ill post my pics sometime next week when my internet decides to work right.

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          #5
          Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

          I went ahead and bought 2 new monitors for my main system, as the flickering triggers an instant headache in me, and it's really obnoxious. But don't worry, I haven't given up on these monitors yet.
          I have finals until Tuesday, and then I will have a couple of weeks free, and one of my objectives is to fix these 2 monitors. I'm going to leave one alone, and then just power cycle the other until it dies. It seems like it has the hardest time at startup. I seriously doubt it's the backlights, they're rated for 60,000 hours and it's too much of a coincidence for both yours and my monitors to go out.

          It's definitely not the capacitors either, as I recapacitored a whole board. When I did that, the annoying squealing / crunchy sounds went away for about a week. So my suspicion is some transistor or diode or something is shorted and it's overvolting one of the capacitors, causing it to squeal and create intermittent dropouts... I don't know why this would make them keep working after they've been on for a while though.

          I've had the board on while the monitors were open and I couldn't isolate which component the squealing was coming from. I'll see if I can come up with a smart way to do this without killing myself. One thing I will try is to power it up without the bulbs connected. This should be safe, right?

          Anyway, as I said... I don't have time to work on these right now, but come Wednesday I will be done with school and I will make this one of my priorities, because if I don't get them fixed soon I probably won't ever get around to it.

          Let me know what you've been up to, and I'd really like to get some pictures or a description of which exact components and locations your burnt components are in. I can take some high res pictures on wednesday, and you could circle them and repost the image, maybe?

          I'm pretty pissed off about these monitors. especially since they were priced at $220 before the Black Friday discount.

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            #6
            Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

            22" at 220 bucks is considered low end and Vision is not a brand of this monitors. Someone put the brand on these manufactured of dubious origins.

            22" at that time should be around 280-350ish.

            What is this new pair of monitors this time? I hope they are decent brand like LG, Samsung or like.

            Seanix, Quest, Viewsonic, Benq, Acer, KDS, Visionquest are badge engineering on third-party monitors made by somewhere else of lesser quality. Panel is big time lottery unless do lot of research on forums to determine who use the panel in what.

            Even Samsung is not alone in this with panel lottery as well but not as bad since parts and housing etc are good and are made by Samsung themselves even the panels as well.

            Cheers, Wizard

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              #7
              Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

              Like my 19" AOC...

              Actually a "top victory electronics"

              I just run the brightness at about 30 to spare the lamps and psu a bit.

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                #8
                Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

                Originally posted by 1337woody
                well, after looking at this think for awhile, my best guess, is the controller is the culprit, i think the psu is fine, being that it powers on and no longer squeals and the lcd is fine, and part of the controller is ok. its the part that outputs the image is toast, i assume this because it still registers in windows properly. i see 2 components that look toast, one a tiny resistor and two this tiny ic that i cant make out atm. i havent seen another controller on the net and i cant find a p/n that refrences anything either. so im prolly just going to see if i can replace those parts. ill post my pics sometime next week when my internet decides to work right.
                We'll be waiting.
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                  #9
                  Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

                  http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=9...4e75f6e8ebb871

                  I uploaded the pics and the zip has all the pics. Long story short the nets screwy and i didnt think the zip was going to upload, but it did so ya, now you have individual pics and a zip.

                  If you want ill upload elsewhere, i just dont like megaupload and rapidshare because of the limits and if your on a shared ip is can be a pain when other people are downloading stuff.

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                    #10
                    Re: Vison 22" LCD Flickering v221wd

                    well, i think i might have some time this week to make it down to epo and get my parts id like my 100$ monitor back. has anyone been able to locate a new controller unit or psu for this monitor?

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